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   Robert to All   
   Early church and the evidences of being    
   21 Oct 25 00:10:48   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christnews, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christnews   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   And yes, upon every born again believer were the gifts of the Holy Spirit   
   given, Stephen the martyr was killed because of his works of Faith.   
      
   Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that   
   it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.   
      
   Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name   
   whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.   
      
   Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them   
   which heard the word. Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed   
   were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles   
   also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.   
      
   Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then   
   answered Peter,   
      
   Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which   
   have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?   
      
   Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then   
   prayed they him to tarry certain days.   
      
   Pretty obvious that those who spoke in tongues and prophesied did so before   
   water Baptism, and according to the prophecy of John the Baptist.   
      
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   Act 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the   
   kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men   
   and women.   
      
   Act 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he   
   continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which   
   were done.   
      
   Act 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had   
   received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:   
      
   Act 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might   
   receive the Holy Ghost:   
      
   Act 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized   
   in the name of the Lord Jesus.)   
      
   Act 8:17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy   
   Ghost.   
      
   Act 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the   
   Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,   
      
   Act 8:19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he   
   may receive the Holy Ghost.   
      
   Act 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou   
   hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.   
      
   Pretty obvious here that Simon the sorcerer saw the evidences of those that   
   believed and totally immersed themselves in Jesus Christ.   
      
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   Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye   
   believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there   
   be any Holy Ghost.   
      
   Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they   
   said, Unto John's baptism.   
      
   Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance,   
   saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come   
   after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.   
      
   Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord   
   Jesus.   
      
   Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on   
   them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.   
      
   Act 19:7 And all the men were about twelve.   
      
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   Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.   
      
   Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the   
   Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he   
   is none of his.   
      
   From the scriptures above to speaks of the evidences of the Holy Spirit   
   within. Now you have heard if you never heard this before, as some above   
   never heard of it, yet they believed that the Messiah had come.   
      
   ***   
      
   Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in   
   you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal   
   bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.   
      
   Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after   
   the flesh.   
      
   Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the   
   Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.   
      
   Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of   
   God.   
      
   Makes alive you mortal body, did not say the spatial body. “By His   
   wounds we are healed.†  
      
   Who has deceived you into being ripped off in your walk with God? Has Faith   
   ceased?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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