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   Message 7,918 of 8,774   
   Robert to All   
   Re: Early church and the evidences of be   
   22 Oct 25 09:47:59   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christnews   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Oct 21, 2025, Robert wrote   
   (Message-ID: <10d7blo$3obc9$1@dont-email.me>):   
      
   I didn’t post this to acc so here it is. The early day believers, and these   
   evidences still occur.   
   Here is the prophecy first of John the Baptist.   
      
   Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh   
   after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall   
   baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:   
      
   Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and   
   gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with   
   unquenchable fire.   
      
   Keep in mind what he spoke in V11, but I would like to point out V12 to those   
   whose ‘religion’ tells them that there is no everlasting Lake of Fire,   
   and the deepest parts of Hell, they mock the word of the Lord. To the other   
   religious people the lackadaisical and or the pharisaic, you may be part of   
   this chaff. He gathers up the wheat, but not the flakes, those that are the   
   shell of the wheat, IOW he spits out the lukewarm, so think about that, and   
   “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to   
   escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son   
   of man.” (Luk 21:36) This thought also Paul recounted in 2 Thes 1:5 to the   
   end of the chapter of which I am going to quote one verse that being,   
   “Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy   
   of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the   
   work of faith with power:” (2Th 1:11) So it is rather obvious that the Lord   
   desires us to know these things so that we do not slack off in doubt and   
   disbelief.   
      
   Now, back to the book of Matthew and JtB. Jesus spoke highly of him, calling   
   him the greatest prophet of all time before, Yet John knew where he lacked,   
   recognized that, and said,...   
      
   Mat 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized   
   of him.   
      
   Mat 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and   
   comest thou to me?   
      
   Mat 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus   
   it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.   
      
   Yes, V14 spoke JtB as he knew of a far deeper walk with the Lord that should   
   follow those that followed Jesus. Which Jesus confirmed to us when He said,   
   “Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not   
   risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in   
   the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.” (Mat 11:11)   
      
   In todays English that verse is translated as;   
      
   Mat 11:11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen   
   anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of   
   heaven is greater than he.   
      
   This spoke to the early Believer as much as it applies to us, today. The   
   gifts and the callings of Jesus Christ has not diminished, nor has the need   
   of them. We live in a very fallen world, the world that Jesus said was coming   
   when He prophesied of this time as the days of Sodom and Gomorrah etc. And we   
   can see all the sexual perversion, the evil corruption than is embedded in   
   all forms of government, from which we will get a short reprieve by the Lord   
   in order to gather up billions into the kingdom of God in a short amount of   
   time, and then the Lord will return in the clouds to snatch us suddenly, in   
   the blink of an eye, and then sudden destruction will fall on all those that   
   remain. What a horrible position to be left in, many might rejoice thinking   
   good all these christians will be out of out faces and celebrate that like   
   the Mardi Gras, as the last days to sin freely before lent. But that joy will   
   be quickly destroyed....   
      
   I wrote more than I intended, here as my thoughts were to basically resend   
   this link to acc, but as I read, I saw and felt that these things should be   
   passed on to you all.   
      
   >   
   > And yes, upon every born again believer were the gifts of the Holy Spirit   
   > given, Stephen the martyr was killed because of his works of Faith.   
   >   
   > Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that   
   > it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.   
   >   
   > Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name   
   > whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.   
   >   
   > Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them   
   > which heard the word. Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed   
   > were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles   
   > also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.   
   >   
   > Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then   
   > answered Peter,   
   >   
   > Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which   
   > have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?   
   >   
   > Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then   
   > prayed they him to tarry certain days.   
   >   
   > Pretty obvious that those who spoke in tongues and prophesied did so before   
   > water Baptism, and according to the prophecy of John the Baptist.   
   >   
   > **********************************   
   >   
   > Act 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the   
   > kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men   
   > and women.   
   >   
   > Act 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he   
   > continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which   
   > were done.   
   >   
   > Act 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had   
   > received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:   
   >   
   > Act 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might   
   > receive the Holy Ghost:   
   >   
   > Act 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized   
   > in the name of the Lord Jesus.)   
   >   
   > Act 8:17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy   
   > Ghost.   
   >   
   > Act 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the   
   > Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,   
   >   
   > Act 8:19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he   
   > may receive the Holy Ghost.   
   >   
   > Act 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou   
   > hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.   
   >   
   > Pretty obvious here that Simon the sorcerer saw the evidences of those that   
   > believed and totally immersed themselves in Jesus Christ.   
   >   
   > ************************************   
   >   
   > Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye   
      
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