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   On Oct 22, 2025, James wrote   
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   > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 09:05:37 -0700, None  wrote:   
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   > > On Oct 20, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
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   > > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:02:56 -0700, None  wrote:   
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   > > > > On Oct 19, 2025, James wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > God's Personal Name: What is it?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > NO ONE TODAY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. PERIOD.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > It is found in the Bible in the form of 4 Hebrew consonant letters:   
   > > > > > YHWH (some say YHVH)   
   > > > > > Those 4 Hebrew letters are called the Tetragrammaton. They occur in   
   > > > > > the Bible about 7000 times.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The favored English name by Hebrew Scholars is the TRANSLITERATED   
   name   
   > > > > > "Yahweh". But each language has its own pronunciation of the   
   > > > > > TRANSLATED name. Here are some examples:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > English= Jehovah. (Latinized) KJV Bible Ps 83:18.   
   > > > > > In Danish "Jehova"   
   > > > > > In Fijan "Jiova"   
   > > > > > In Italian "Geova"   
   > > > > > In Japanese "Ehoba"   
   > > > > > In Spanish "Jehová"   
   > > > > > In French "Je'hovah (conventional literary form)   
   > > > > > In German "Jehovah" (German Elberfelder version)   
   > > > > > (See Deut 4:2)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > But for English, the most known name for God is the Latinized name   
   > > > > > "Jehovah". It has been around since the 17th century. The popular   
   King   
   > > > > > James Version of 1611, recorded it in a few places such as Ex 6:3 and   
   > > > > > Ps 83:18.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Notice:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "Biblical scholar Francis B. Dennio said: "Jehovah misrepresents   
   > > > > > Yahweh no more than Jeremiah misrepresents Yirmeyahu. The settled   
   > > > > > connotations of Isaiah and Jeremiah forbid questioning their right."   
   > > > > > Dennio argued that the form Jehovah is not a barbarism, but is the   
   > > > > > best English form available, being that it has for centuries gathered   
   > > > > > the necessary connotations and associations for valid use in   
   English."   
   > > > > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > A superstition arose around the 2nd century BCE that said NOT to   
   > > > > > pronounce the divine name. The reasons are unclear, but one reason is   
   > > > > > that the divine name was too holy to pronounce. Yet the Bible   
   recorded   
   > > > > > it almost 7000 times   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Anyway, they substituted the Tetragrammaton for "Lord" or "God". And   
   > > > > > most ALL translations follow that example. For example, compare the   
   > > > > > two:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- King James   
   > > > > > Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,   
   > > > > > by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known   
   to   
   > > > > > them.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- New King James   
   > > > > > Exodus 6:3 "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God   
   > > > > > Almighty, but by My name, Lord, I was not known to them.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So is "Jehovah" a legitimate name for God? Again notice:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > ""the English form Jehovah is an Anglicized form of Yehovah,"[18] and   
   > > > > > preserves the four Hebrew consonants "YHVH" (with the introduction of   
   > > > > > the "J" sound in English).[18][20][21] Some argue that Jehovah is   
   > > > > > preferable to Yahweh, based on their conclusion that the   
   > > > > > Tetragrammaton was likely tri-syllabic originally, and that modern   
   > > > > > forms should therefore also have three syllables.[22]"   
   > > > > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So "Jehovah" "preserves the four Hebrew consonants of "YHVH"" and   
   > > > > > today is the most used name for God.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The Septuagint (OT in Greek instead of Hebrew) of today is of the 4th   
   > > > > > or 5th centuries C.E. And sure enough, by that time pronouncing the   
   > > > > > Tetragrammaton was not done. But in it's place they inserted the   
   words   
   > > > > > "Lord" or "God".   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > BUT the original Septuagint DID contain the Tetragrammaton. A   
   fragment   
   > > > > > of the Septuagint (2nd half of Deuteronomy) DID contain the   
   > > > > > Tetragrammaton. (See Inventory Number 266 of the Fouad Papyri) It has   
   > > > > > a date by scholars of around 2nd or 1st B.C.E.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > The septuagint was written in Greek.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > “And I appeared to Abraam and Isaac and Jacob, being their God, but I   
   > > > > did   
   > > > > not manifest to them my name Lord.” (Exo 6:3, Brenton)   
   > > >   
   > > > They made God just lie. "Lord" is a TITLE, not a name.   
   > >   
   > > No one can make the Heavenly Father lie. In the koine Greek the word   
   > > translated into English was kurios.   
   > > This is the word translated from Hebrew into koine Greek by the priests of   
   > > Israel 300 years before Christ was born. This was in the original   
   > > Septuagint.   
   > > The greek usage of the term in that day was this.   
   > >   
   > > kurios   
   >   
   > Negatrons. The Septuagint we have today is 4th or 5th century C.E.   
   > copies. By then that superstition had gained a foothold that it was   
   > too sacred to pronounce. So they cut out the Tetragrammaton and   
   > INSERTED "Lord" or "God" in its place.   
      
   They cut out nothing. They translated it into koine Greek because the   
   dispersed Jews spoke no Hebrew, let alone read it.   
   >   
   > However, they found some Septuagint fragments of Deuteronomy dated 2nd   
   > or 1st B.C.E. THAT CONTAINED THE TETRAGRAMATON. So the original   
   > Septuagint contained it. See Inventory Number 266 of the Fouad Papyri.   
      
   Where are any other supporting fragments. No one accepts one fragment of   
   anything as proof they only use it if there are other supporting fragments or   
   pages found elsewhere. Then it can be adjudicated as legit or not.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Thayer Definition:   
   > >   
   > > 1) he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of   
   > > deciding; master, lord   
   > >   
   > > 1a) the possessor and disposer of a thing   
   > >   
   > > 1a1) the owner; one who has control of the person, the master   
   > >   
   > > 1a2) in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor   
   > >   
   > > 1b) is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which   
   > > servants greet their master   
   > >   
   > > 1c) this title is given to: God, the Messiah   
   > >   
   > > NOTICE the last line above. To whom was this title given?   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > “And?G2532? I appeared?G3708? to?G4314? Abraham,?G*?   
   > > > > and?G2532? Isaac,?G*? and?G2532? Jacob,?G*?   
   > > > > [3God?G2316?1being?G1510.6?2their].?G1473? And?G2532 G3588?   
   > > > > my name,?G3686 G1473? the LORD,?G2962? was not?G3756?   
   > > > > manifested?G1213? to them.?G1473?” (Exo 6:3)   
   > > >   
   > > > Notice:   
   > > >   
      
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