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   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Oct 23, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:<6kjkfktvuvo5tuu3fd3v6scti68i5r927h@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 00:11:15 -0700, None  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Oct 22, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:28:42 -0700, None  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Oct 20, 2025, James wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 11:12:38 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Oct 17, 2025, James wrote   
   > > > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Actually, Satan goes out representing the churches, who claim God   
   > > > > > > > tortures living beings in a literal fire. Satan is so pleased   
   that so   
   > > > > > > > many people fell for his sadistic doctrine. You really know how   
   to   
   > > > > > > > make his day! As he says to you, keep up the good work.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Odd that you say satan wants to scare the hell out of people in   
   order to   
   > > > > > > make them run to Jesus, as God.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > No, as a god.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Your denial of God is obvious.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > What you are claiming is that one god is scaring the hell out of them   
   in   
   > > > > order to make people flee him as satan and turn to another god which   
   > > > > according to you is Jesus the Messiah.   
   > > >   
   > > > Satan is called a "god" (2 Cor 4:4), then how much more so would Jesus   
   > > > be a "god".   
   > > > >   
   > > > > That makes no sense/   
   > > >   
   > > > That Jesus is God, contradicts numerous Scriptures. If you want them,   
   > > > just ask.   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > If one were to follow that premise out, then the JW’s are a tool   
   of   
   > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > evil one, setting them up in a trap.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Teaching that God is not a God of judgment,   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Robert, Robert, Robert, how many times have I told you God IS a God   
   of   
   > > > > > judgment? The penalty for rejecting God is to lose one's life. Not to   
   > > > > > be conscious any more. Not to have feelings any more. Not to love any   
   > > > > > more. That is justice served on a solid golden plate!   
   > > > >   
   > > > > James. You have been shown from Scripture that God is a God of   
   judgment.   
   > > > > Perhaps 100’s of times, yet you chose to disbelieve the truth. Those   
   who   
   > > > > teach such lies as you promote might make people think that there is no   
   > > > > hell   
   > > > > or lake of fire, so they can sin at will since there is no eternal   
   damage   
   > > >   
   > > > If they continue to sin at will, God will do to them what governments   
   > > > do to murderers. They take their lives. God will do the same thing.   
   > > >   
   > > > > done, which is why many commit suicide, only to instantly see the   
   demons   
   > > > > of   
   > > > > hell staring them straight in the face.   
   > > >   
   > > > They have a blank screen, and can see no one. They visit the place   
   > > > they were before they were even conceived.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And those like you are responsible for that way of thinking, thus those   
   > > > > who   
   > > > > followed your concepts, pay the price and each time it adds to your   
   sins   
   > > > > since you bear responsibility for the words that come out of your   
   mouth.   
   > > >   
   > > > I sure hope so, since the words coming out of my mouth are Bible   
   > > > truths. For example, JW's are fulfilling Mt 24:14 as we speak. That is   
   > > > the only hope for mankind at the present time. And in the last days   
   > > > (which is now) you MUST see a group of people proclaiming the coming   
   > > > soon of God's kingdom.   
   > > >   
   > > > How do you know it is JW's proclaiming that? On the cover of any   
   > > > Watchtower Bible-aid magazine, that are left at many people's doors   
   > > > all over the world, are the words: ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM.   
   > > >   
   > > > Do you know what that Kingdom is?   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > therefore no hell for humans.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Hell in the Bible is the grave, where people like the dead Lazarus   
   was   
   > > > > > at until Jesus resurrected him. People have to be DEAD to be   
   > > > > > resurrected, otherwise there is no need for a resurrection since they   
   > > > > > are already alive.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I have shown you the word for Grave, Graves, tombs, etc. It is very   
   > > > > definitive, so why have you rejected it, the bare truth.   
   > > >   
   > > > Then explain this. Job wanted to go to hell (sheol) TO GET RELIEF from   
   > > > his agonies. Why would he do that?   
   > > >   
   > > > DRA   
   > > > Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell [sheol],   
   > > > and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a. time when thou wilt   
   > > > remember me? [brackets mine]   
   > > >   
   > > > "O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, [sheol] that thou wouldest   
   > > > keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me   
   > > > a set time, and remember me!" (KJV) [brackets mine]   
   > > >   
   > > > Carefully compare those two Scriptures:   
   > > >   
   > > > DRA translates the Hebrew word "sheol" as "hell".   
   > > > KJV translates the Hebrew word "sheol" as "grave   
   > > >   
   > > > Thus "hell" = "grave". &  hell   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Like a spiders web, they get caught up in the evil ones grip, only   
   to   
   > > > > > > find   
   > > > > > > out that when they pass on from this life that Satan goes.....   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Or like walking in a mine field. One bad step and you cease to be.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > In this world, you cease to be, but not never from the spiritual world.   
   > > > > For   
   > > > > that reason Jesus said it would have been far better if a person were   
   to   
   > > > > have   
   > > > > never been born.   
   > > >   
   > > > And yet the Bible says:   
   > > >   
   > > > -- King James   
   > > > Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,   
   > > > so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall   
   > > > die. So your spiritual soul can cease to be. (actually there is no   
   > > > spiritual soul)   
   > > >   
   > > > Just like English has words with more than one meaning, the Hebrew   
   > > > word for "soul" also has multiple meanings. For example, a person IS a   
   > > > soul. (Gen 2:7) Also, a soul can mean life. So if your soul is leaving   
   > > > your body, your life is leaving your body. (Gen 35:18; KJV)   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > BOO!! GOTCHA!! Followed by a sinister mocking laugh.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > He won't be laughing when he gets the "second death".   
   > > > > > God gave him life, and he repaid by rebelling against his own   
   Creator.   
   > > > > > He just committed suicide.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And he took you with him. If you should die, without repentance, and   
   > > > > salvation,.....well. :(   
   > > >   
      
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