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   > > > Notice this Scripture very carefully:   
   > > >   
   > > > -- New King James   
   > > > Proverbs 16:25 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end   
   > > > is the way of death.   
   > > >   
   > > > That verse is describing either you or me, since we have many opposite   
   > > > beliefs. One of us is mostly right, and the other mainly wrong. God   
   > > > knows. What is your best Scripture for proof you are right.   
   > > >   
   > > > This is my best one for me being right. The setting, Jesus has been   
   > > > resurrected and is now in Heaven with God: The Apostle Paul then   
   > > > writes this:   
   > > >   
   > > > -- King James   
   > > > 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every   
   > > > man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of   
   > > > Christ is God.   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > You do realize that in this life that God established a death   
   penalty   
   > > > > > > for   
   > > > > > > certain crimes, don’t you. And if He did that for this life,   
   then it   
   > > > > > > would   
   > > > > > > stand to reason that he also judges after death from this life,   
   hence   
   > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > well known Second Death. In which there will be not one thing that   
   could   
   > > > > > > be   
   > > > > > > considered pleasant, nice, loving, etc. Only the eternal torment   
   of what   
   > > > > > > could have been, as well as the retribution for all your errors.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Tell me, if hellfire existed, could you stand it if your child was   
   > > > > > getting tortured with fire forever? Wouldn't that ruin any pleasures   
   > > > > > you were getting then? Well rejoice, there is no hellfire place.   
   There   
   > > > > > are death and the resurrection, then either life of eternal joy, or   
   > > > > > the second death of no life, which is deleted.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It does exist. And if a child of mine were to end there, it would be by   
   > > > > their   
   > > > > choice. They have all been warned.   
   > > >   
   > > > And your love for the child?   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > There are 100’s if not 1,000’s of recent stories from people who   
   died   
   > > > > and   
   > > > > were revived, who were not drugged, who went to hell, some of them who   
   > > > > thought they were christians. Whose stories are consistent with one   
   > > > > another   
   > > > > who are now totally convinced to the truth of hell fire. It is nothing   
   to   
   > > > > make light of, nor should anyone ignore it.   
   > > >   
   > > > That is a satanic teaching. And the whole world is ran by Satan. He is   
   > > > its god. So guess who plants those ideas in their heads? We know of   
   > > > demon possesion in the Bible, so it's not hard to know who.   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Also, since you say you believe that lie, then why be a JW or any other   
   > > > > religious doctrine? Why waste your time, especially when by the JW   
   > > > > standards   
   > > > > you are a loser since you will not be one of the 144K?   
   > > >   
   > > > Picture the best time you ever had. Now multiply that by 1000, which   
   > > > it is what it will be on the Paradise earth. I look forward to   
   > > > enjoying the pleasures on that Paradise earth. As Jesus put it:   
   > > >   
   > > > - King James   
   > > > Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.   
   > > >   
   > > > I am used to living on this planet. And I enjoy it even though it is   
   > > > ran by Satan. Take Satan out of the picture, and it's going to be   
   > > > glorious.   
   > > >   
   > > > > Why follow their rules?   
   > > >   
   > > > You mean the Bible's rules, since all beliefs of the JW's comes from   
   > > > the Bible.   
   > > >   
   > > > > Why refuse to take blood if it will save your life of   
   > > > > one of your kin?   
   > > >   
   > > > Because the Bible tells Christians NO! (Acts 15:29)   
   > > >   
   > > > > What good is it to spend your own money on them and their   
   > > > > work when there is no personal benefit to you?   
   > > >   
   > > > Only everlasting perfect life on a Paradise earth. I would call that a   
   > > > benefit.   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > For near a century the JW’s taught when you were dead, that's it. No   
   > > > > resurrection for you,   
   > > >   
   > > > I don't think so. You would have to prove that to me. What literature   
   > > > were you referring to.   
   > > >   
   > > > > now you waffle on that point, claiming you might be,   
   > > > > while at the same time claim there is no resurrection. And yet you   
   claim   
   > > > > that   
   > > > > both the good and the evil people will be resurrected. To what? A life   
   > > > > outside the city like a Dawg?   
   > > >   
   > > > Where are you getting these false statements? Let me make it clear.   
   > > > When you die you cease to exist FOR A WHILE. (Ps 146:3,4)   
   > > > Then you are given a new body in the resurrection. (Acts 24:15)   
   > > > Probably looking like the one you first had. (see how Lazarus was   
   > > > resurrected and was recognizable as Lazarus   
   > > >   
   > > > Then all those resurrected will be given the opportunity to worship   
   > > > God. Those that do will inherit the earth. Those that don't will   
   > > > return to the dust they were made from, and will eternally cease to   
   > > > exist. No torture, no sticking pins in him, no having their limbs   
   > > > being torn from their body, no pulling out their fingernails, etc.   
   > > > They will forfeit their lives.   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You like to think of yourself as a rational being, yet there is no   
   > > > > rationale   
   > > > > for what you claim to follow, especially now that you isolate yourself   
   and   
   > > > > your understanding from that of the JW’s.   
   > > >   
   > > > You are dreaming again.   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Did you know that EVERYONE gets out of hell? (grave)(Rev 20:13) The   
   > > > > > churches don't teach you that.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > ROTFLOL! Didn't see that one coming. If there is no hell then how do   
   they   
   > > > > get   
   > > > > out?   
   > > >   
   > > > I have told you this many times. sheol and hades are hell. and that is   
   > > > the grave. Here is a translation that uses "hell" instead of sheol:   
   > > >   
   > > > DRA   
   > > > Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell [sheol],   
   > > > and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a. time when thou wilt   
   > > > remember me? [brackets mine] (Jog 14:13)   
   > > >   
   > > > - Webster's Bible   
   > > > Job 14:13 O that thou wouldst hide me in the grave, that thou wouldst   
   > > > keep me secret, until thy wrath is past, that thou wouldst appoint me   
   > > > a set time, and remember me!   
   > > >   
   > > > -- New Revised Standard with Apocrypha   
   > > > Job 14:13 O that you would hide me in Sheol,   
   > > > that you would conceal me until your wrath is past,   
   > > > that you would appoint me a set time, and remember me!   
   > > >   
   > > > So let's summaize:   
   > > >   
   > > > hell = sheol = grave   
   > > >   
   > > > > Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from   
   > > > > whose   
   > > > > face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place   
   for   
   > > > > them.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and   
   the   
   > > > > books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of   
   life:   
   > > > > and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the   
   > > > > books,   
   > > > > according to their works.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and   
   > > > > hell   
   > > > > delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every   
   man   
   > > > > according to their works.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is   
   the   
   > > > > second death.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was   
   cast   
   > > > > into the lake of fire.   
      
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