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|    None to James    |
|    Re: Satan's greatest holliday almost upo    |
|    23 Oct 25 10:22:15    |
      [continued from previous message]              > > > >       > > > > There is the full story, do you see the ending in V15? If your name is       not       > > > > found in the book of life, which contains the names of those who       believed       > > > > in       > > > > Jesus, the Lamb of God, then your eternal existence is not pleasant.       > > >       > > > You read the Scriptures yourself.       > > >       > > > Vs 13: death and hell let out all the people in them. The churches       > > > never teach you that.       > > > V14: Death and hell tossed into Lake of Fire. Can death be tortured       > > > and burned? Can hell?       > > >       > > > >       > > > > The word for grave was not there. “mne?meion"       > > > >       > > > > >       > > > > > >       > > > > > > PS: there is a verse that speaks to scaring the hell out of people       lest       > > > > > > they       > > > > > > be lost. Albeit not in those exact terms.       > > > > >       > > > > > Which Scripture?       > > > >       > > > > Would it even matter to you as you choose to disbelieve most every       > > > > scripture       > > > > presented to you.       > > >       > > > I believe every Scripture presented to me, except bad individual       > > > translations.       > > >       > > > > Jud 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy       faith,       > > > > praying in the Holy Ghost,       > > > >       > > > > Jud 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of       our       > > > > Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.       > > > >       > > > > Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:       > > > >       > > > > Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire;       hating       > > > > even the garment spotted by the flesh.       > > > >       > > > > Do you follow V20?       > > > >       > > > > Do you believe V21?       > > >       > > > Like I said above, I believe ALL Scriptures. (see above)       > >       > > Yet I showed you that you do not, so your modified your tone to “true:       > > scriptures, then you finally narrowed that down even future and now claim       > > that YOU are the one who defines what you claim to be “True” or false.       > > >       > > >       > > > >       > > > > Do you understand V22 and V23?       > > > >       > > > > Most cessationist don’t believe of understand these verses.       > > >       > > > Yes, as they are written.       > >       > > See there, you claim to believe only one of the scriptures But 23 you       > > refuse.       > > John the Baptist spoke of Eternal Fire for those that are damned. God spoke       > > of it as well, why do you deny that?       > >       > > Also, you made no comment about seeing the scripture where we are       instructed       > > to scare the hell out of people if that is what it takes. Not to torture       > > them       > > here or harangue them here, but to point out the truth of God for their       > > deliverance both in this life as well as in life eternal.       > > >       > > > >       > > > > >       > > > > >       > > > > > Sincerely James       > > > >       > > > > Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the       fire;       > > > > so       > > > > shall it be in the end of this world.       > > >       > > > What happens to tares after they burn up? They are non-existant.       > >       > > That is not true at all.Their eternal house of fire is for their eternal       > > spirits. The scripture you referred to speaks of a spiritual life with       those       > > pretenders hanging it with the believers, deceivers are they.       > >       > > That was verified by Jesus when he spoke of the rich man in hell and       Lazarus       > > in the Bosom of Abraham.       > > And the rich man complained of the continuing heat.       >       > He could have seen aliens in flying saucers too, because that whole       > narration is a parable. Parable:       >       > "a usually short fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude or       > a religious principle; the Biblical parable of the Good Samaritan."       > (Merriam-Webster)       >       > For Proof, you are standing in the middle of a roaring fire, and       > someone gives you A DROP if water, and it refreshes you. That's a       > parable; "a usually short fictitious story"       >       > Sincerely James              To you Jesus said,... Luk 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in       thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things:       but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.              Luk 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf       fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can       they pass to us, that would comefrom thence.              Luk 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest       send him to my father's house:              Luk 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they       also come into this place of torment.              Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them       hear them.              Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from       the dead, they will repent.              Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,       neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.              Jesus rose from the dead, yet you hear not.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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