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|    Christ Rose to All    |
|    Re: Heaven: Not all righteous one's dest    |
|    24 Oct 25 20:15:31    |
      XPost: alt.bible       From: usenet@christrose.news              The Lord Jesus Himself corrected the very misunderstanding you’re       repeating. While it’s true that before the resurrection no man had       ascended into Heaven (John 3:13), that does not mean the righteous were       forever barred from it. Before Christ’s resurrection, the faithful dead       were in Paradise—a place of conscious blessing, not annihilation or       unconscious sleep. Jesus told the repentant thief, “Truly, I say to you,       today you will be with Me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43, ESV). That was no       promise of mere memory or earthly restoration, but of personal       fellowship with Christ immediately after death.              After Christ’s resurrection and ascension, the way into Heaven was       opened for all the redeemed. Hebrews 9:24 says, “Christ has entered, not       into holy places made with hands … but into heaven itself, now to appear       in the presence of God on our behalf.” He entered as our forerunner       (Hebrews 6:19–20). That means others follow Him there. Paul writes, “We       would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2       Corinthians 5:8, ESV). Again, “My desire is to depart and be with       Christ, for that is far better” (Philippians 1:23, ESV). These verses       destroy the idea that only a few go to Heaven.              The 144,000 of Revelation 7 and 14 are not the total number of the       redeemed. Revelation 7 shows two distinct yet related visions: first,       the sealed 144,000 from Israel (7:4–8), then “a great multitude that no       one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and       languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb” (7:9, ESV).       The multitude stands in Heaven, clothed in white robes, holding palm       branches, worshiping God. Scripture explicitly says they are “before the       throne” (7:15). So the Bible itself refutes the claim that only 144,000       go to Heaven.              You also quoted Matthew 5:5, but notice the connection between Heaven       and earth in that same sermon. Jesus said, “Rejoice and be glad, for       your reward is great in heaven” (Matthew 5:12, ESV). Those who inherit       the earth are the same who have treasures laid up in Heaven (6:20). When       Christ returns, Heaven and earth unite under His reign. The New       Jerusalem descends from Heaven (Revelation 21:2), and “the dwelling       place of God is with man” (21:3). Thus, the final state is not divided       into two classes—some in Heaven and some on earth—but united in one       redeemed creation under Christ.              As for 1 Corinthians 15:50, “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom       of God” means our mortal, corruptible bodies must be transformed—not       that we remain on earth. The very next verses explain: “We shall all be       changed … the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed”       (15:51–52, ESV). Believers will have glorified bodies like Christ’s       (Philippians 3:20–21). That is how “flesh and blood” becomes fit for       Heaven.              Finally, the reward of Heaven is not to “flutter around playing harps,”       but to serve and reign with Christ forever (Revelation 22:3–5). All who       belong to Him share this destiny—not a limited 144,000, but “whoever       believes in Him” (John 3:16). The redeemed from every age will see His       face, dwell in His presence, and worship the Lamb who was slain       (Revelation 5:9–10).              So the Bible teaches one flock and one Shepherd indeed (John 10:16)—not       two separate classes of believers, but all united in Christ, reigning       with Him in glory.              --       Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God       raised Him from the dead?              That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death       penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death       satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John       2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your       sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.              On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on       the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name       of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).              https://christrose.news/salvation              To automatically receive daily Bible teaching updates with colorful       images and website formatting, subscribe to my feed in a client like       Thunderbird:              https://www.christrose.news/feeds/posts/default              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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