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   > > anything as proof they only use it if there are other supporting fragments   
   > > or pages found elsewhere. Then it can be adjudicated as legit or not.   
   >   
   > The 'fragment' is the whole 2nd half of Deuteronomy. And the   
   > Tetragrammaton is clearly in the whole fragment.   
      
   Read my comment above. The characters would have been foreign to the 99% of   
   the Jews.they would not have a clue what it was or even meant.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Thayer Definition:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1) he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of   
   > > > > deciding; master, lord   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1a) the possessor and disposer of a thing   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1a1) the owner; one who has control of the person, the master   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1a2) in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1b) is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with   
   which   
   > > > > servants greet their master   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1c) this title is given to: God, the Messiah   
   > > > >   
   > > > > NOTICE the last line above. To whom was this title given?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > “And?G2532? I appeared?G3708? to?G4314? Abraham,?G*?   
   > > > > > > and?G2532? Isaac,?G*? and?G2532? Jacob,?G*?   
   > > > > > > [3God?G2316?1being?G1510.6?2their].?G1473? And?G2532 G3588?   
   > > > > > > my name,?G3686 G1473? the LORD,?G2962? was not?G3756?   
   > > > > > > manifested?G1213? to them.?G1473?” (Exo 6:3)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Notice:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- American Standard   
   > > > > > Exodus 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,   
   > > > > > as God Almighty; but by my name Jehovah I was not known to them.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > That is what Ex 6:3 should say.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > What I gave you above was the greek translation, from the septuagint.   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, from the 4th or 5th century C.E. See above where the original   
   > > > Septuagint contained the Tetragramaton. But the Tetragramaton was in   
   > > > Hebrew letters, not Greek letters.   
   > > >   
   > > > > The Greek used in that day and as translated by the Hebrew/Israelite   
   > > > > priests.   
   > > >   
   > > > Yes, Jesus called them "offspring of vipers." They were a terrible   
   > > > lot.   
   > >   
   > > That is definitely not true. The priests in the day of Jesus were not the   
   > > same people who where the priests of Israel 300 years earlier. Can you   
   > > understand that?   
   >   
   > Jesus continuously criticized the Scribes and Pharisees for their not   
   > following the Bible at the time. For example:   
      
   That excuses noting and justifies nothing in your arguments.   
   >   
   >   
   > Mt 23:33   
   > "31. "Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are   
   > sons of those who murdered the prophets.   
   > 32. "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' guilt.   
   > 33. "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation   
   > of hell?? (NKJV)   
   >   
   > Hell = Gehenna, not hades   
      
   You argue without merit. Or understanding.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > As   
   > > > > such it said what it said. So why argue about it. As mentioned to you   
   > > > > before,   
   > > > > there is no such thing as a religious language. What a word means is   
   what   
   > > > > it   
   > > > > means. God or god, are the same word in English, theos is theos in the   
   > > > > greek,   
   > > > > period, no caps, no special punctuations, nothing to distinguish what   
   the   
   > > > > word means whether it be good or evil. The only reason god is   
   capitalized   
   > > > > in   
   > > > > English is because of bozo’s. People too ignorant to comprehend the   
   > > > > subject   
   > > > > within the context it was written. “For this ye know, that no   
   > > > > whoremonger,   
   > > > > nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any   
   > > > > inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.” (Eph 5:5)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > An idolator is one who follows a false god. “Thou shalt have no other   
   > > > > gods   
   > > > > before me.” (Exo 20:3)   
   > > >   
   > > > Esp "God's Son" Jesus.   
   > >   
   > > If what you just said means that you equate Jesus as “Gods Son” means   
   > > that those who worship him a worshipping an idol. That means, and you have   
   > > clearly referenced this before that you do not believe all the Bible as you   
   > > know what Elohiym means yet you disagree with it. And that is found first   
   in   
   > > Gen 1:1 Plus in many other scriptures, and is also used with the name   
   > > Yehovah.   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.   
      
   OOPSIE! You made a mistake, his was call Elohiym not God and you did not   
   quote the NWT. Once again you are a total hypocrite to the JW doctrine and   
   their ?correct? Bible. Electing to use what you call a false bible.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > I would suggest to you that you seek Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.   
   >   
   > Done that. (John 14:6)   
      
   That verse does not say what you think it says. If you do not believe in him,   
   be born again, and filled with the spirit you are not of him, or a brother to   
   him. Not even a servant. Romans 8:8-10 says you are not of Him.   
   >   
   >   
   > > And   
   > > choose life everlasting.   
   >   
   > Done that. (1 John 2:17)   
      
   But you haven’t even done that. You are not of God, you even dismiss Jesus   
   as God.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > True life, not some possibility of being kicked   
   > > outside the city like a dawg.   
   >   
   > Done that. (1 Tim 6:19)   
   >   
   > Yes, just as Jesus himself said about himself: "I am God's Son", not   
   > God.   
      
   You haven’t and you aren’t per your confessions here on the Usenet. You   
   claim you are a 2nd class citizen of heaven dwelling outside the city like   
   dawgs. Only the 144K KW Jews go to heaven.   
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   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > The NWT has restored the OT Tetragrammaton in all of its nearly   
   7000   
   > > > > > > > places.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Sincerely James   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > NWT Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the   
   earth.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Throughout that chapter the word “God’ was used.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The first use of God's name "Jehovah" was at Genesis 2:4:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > -- American Standard   
   > > > > > Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth   
   > > > > > when they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and   
   > > > > > heaven.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > They made the same mistake as did the NWT, you want to be technically   
   > > > > correct? Then stop using the RCC verbiage/transliteration and use the   
   > > > > Hebrew   
   > > > > word “yehovah” Two wrongs do not make a ‘right’.   
   > > >   
   > > > There is no one today that knows the exact spelling of that   
   > > > Tetragramaton. No one. So your guess is as good as anyone else's.   
   > >   
   > > The Tetragamaton is just four consonants It is not Spelled as Yehovah,   
   > > Jehovah or God. What Yehovah spoke is written as to who He is and Was. It   
   > > was   
   > > determined by men to use those four letters because and out of total   
   respect   
   > > and fear of the Master of all things.   
   >   
   > Yet, God had His name in His Bible around 7000 times. The prophets in   
   > the OT had no problem saying His real name.   
   > God NEVER said His name was too sacred to pronounce. That was done by   
   > uninspired men.   
      
   You never corrected the scripture in your Bible, you use Jehovah like a good   
   RC, not Yehovah. You do not use the name Elohiym, for Yehovaho-Yira, Etc.   
   etc. He ia the great I AM. To the Israelite.   
      
   Why do you Keep running around in circles, do not read, always parroting the   
   same false doctrine and even that per your statements if stuff made up by   
   your can contrary to the JW.Org.   
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