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   Message 7,994 of 8,774   
   James to Robert   
   Re: Lake of Fire = torture on a scale un   
   30 Oct 25 12:55:26   
   
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   >most demons, and Satan although he has access to the second heaven. And   
   >controls it.   
      
   Where do you get this stuff from? If it is churches, I am not   
   surprised.   
      
   The first death is the death we all inherited from Adam,  We all die.   
      
      
   >The second death is a place created for Satan and all his angels   
   >for their final dwelling place and because of sin, men will go there as well,   
   >all those whose names are not written in the book of Life. It is called THE   
   >Second Death. It is not a place that can be washed away by your thoughts.   
   >Only those whose sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus will be   
   >freed of that ending. The antichrist and the false prophet in the GT at the   
   >end will be tossed alive into that place, due to their great sin. Tossed   
   >ALIVE, and it sounds like they will be the first two to dwell there.   
      
   You like to make things complicated. The second death is the final   
   death that all those judged adversely get. Unlike the first death,   
   there is no resurrection from the second death. And according to   
   Jesus, they are all 'asleep'.   
      
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I don't understand why you can't see that. It's all written down. You   
   >> don't have to be a Greek scholar to understand it. The translation is   
   >> in simple English.   
   >   
   >I see what I see, via the eyes of God, by His Holy Spirit. I am totally   
   >dependent upon Him per the promises of Jesus and the Heavenly Father. Simple   
   >English is not enough, if you have not the Spirit of God Dwelling in you then   
   >you will miss a lot. In that case going back to the root words will be very   
   >helpful, in fact that is commonly used to show people why they are so   
   >mistaken. That as well as the total content of the scripture both locally as   
   >well as globally.   
   >>   
      
   Did you "test the spirit" as the Bible warns us?   
      
   -- New King James   
   1 John 4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the   
   spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have   
   gone out into the world. "   
      
   Your Holy Spirit could be Holy Satan, acting as he does being a   
   creature of light once in a while.   
      
   >>   
   >> Even the demons were afraid of that second death. (of non-existence):   
   >   
   >There is the evidence of your greatest mistake, which I have shown you   
   >several times, meaning the nonexistent part   
      
   When Lazarus was resurrected he spoke of no Heavenly existence, or a   
   sadistic torture in a hellfire. No, Jesus said he SLEEPS. (no   
   activity) (John 11:11)   
      
   >>   
   >>   
   >> -- New King James   
   >> Luke 4:34 saying, "Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus   
   >> of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know You, who You are the   
   >> Holy One of God!''   
   >   
   >They knew their final end, it was given to them, they also know it to be the   
   >Lake of fire. Not just a pit with fire at the bottom of it. They also   
   >recognized something that you deny.   
      
   That's your opinion, where is the proof?   
      
   >And that he had total power and dominion   
   >over them. They also recognize that power within the hearts of Born Again   
   >ones.   
   >   
   >An evidence of that was when the demons told a man. I know Paul but just who   
   >are you white boy?!?   
      
   But notice what they told Jesus. Did he come here to DESTROY them.   
   They knew the Bible's teachings that the dead know not anything, and   
   their thoughts perish. (Ec 9:5,10; Ps 146:4)   
   >   
   >Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to   
   >call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We   
   >adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.   
   >   
   >Act 19:14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the   
   >priests, which did so.   
   >   
   >Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I   
   >know; but who are ye?   
   >   
   >Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and   
   >overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that   
   >house naked and wounded.   
   >   
   >Act 19:17 And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at   
   >Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was   
   >magnified.   
      
   If you quoted correctly, I accept all Scriptures. But what is your   
   point?   
      
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   >> Sincerely James   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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