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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Nov 6, 2025, Robert wrote   
   (Message-ID: <10ek528$1lvul$1@dont-email.me>):   
      
   > Really? So who was the first?   
   >   
   > Jhn 14:16And I will petition the Father, and He will give you another   
   > Comforter, that He may remain with you to the age,   
   >   
   > Jhn 14:17 the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive because it does   
   > not see Him nor know Him. But you know Him, for He abides with you and shall   
   > be in you.   
   >   
   > Jhn 14:18 I will not leave you orphans; I am coming to you.   
   >   
   > Jhn 14:19 Yet a little while and the world no longer sees Me, but you see Me.   
   > Because I live, you also shall live.   
   >   
   > Jhn 14:20 In that day you shall know that I am in My Father, and you are in   
   > Me, and I am in you.   
   >   
   > Jhn 14:26but the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My   
   > name, He shall teach you all things and shall remind you of all things that I   
   > said to you.   
   >   
   > Jhn 15:26And when the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the   
   > Father, the Spirit of Truth who proceeds from the Father, that One will   
   > witness concerning Me.   
   >   
   > Jhn 16:7But I tell you the truth, it is advantageous for you that I should   
   > go; for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you. But if I go,   
   > I will send Him to you.   
   >   
   > Obviously from these scriptures, Jesus was the comforter who was on the earth   
   > leading the disciples, not just the twelve, but all of them, yet some   
   > rejected Him as they were not fully committed. Think about it, via the   
   > scriptures above.   
   >   
   > The other comforter, the Holy Spirit, was sent to inhabit the hearts of the   
   > Born Again ones. The Holy Spirit empowers all the Believers who trust in Him   
   > and allow him to work through them, empowering them, with the same power that   
   > raised Jesus the Messiah from the dead.   
   >   
   > This same Holy Spirit enables us us to do just as Jesus did, for that reason   
   > he dispenses the gifts of God severally as He wills, and does not leave us   
   > with certain gifts as we are able to ask for more with the expectancy of   
   > receiving them so as to minister through love those that are around us.   
   >   
   > Thus V20 speaks to us having full knowledge of him as we mature, growing in   
   > love, so as to minister unto others that our Heavenly Father might be   
   > glorified, not just to the believer but that the non-believer may see the   
   > Glory of God in operation and see the evidences of the one true God.   
   >   
   > You too can be a conduit of the Heavenly Father being used to, Luk 11:2 And   
   > He said to them:------let Your will be done on earth as it also is in Heaven.   
   >   
   > For the things a believer does, who operates in Love, desires Gods will be   
   > done here, on earth, as it is being done in Heaven. Those that do not operate   
   > with love as as a -----. 1Co 13:1 If I speak with the tongues of men and of   
   > angels, but I do not have love, I have become as sounding brass or a clanging   
   > cymbal.   
   >   
   > Personally, I consider it a super great Gift to have “another Comforter”   
   > dwelling in me, One just like Jesus. To lead us, and also to lead us into all   
   > truth. He is truth and not AI. ;)   
      
   Comforter;   
      
   G3875(Strong)   
      
   παράκλητος paraklētos   
      
   par-ak'-lay-tos   
      
   An intercessor, consoler: - advocate, comforter.   
      
   Total KJV occurrences: 5   
      
   G3875(Thayer)   
      
   παράκλητος paraklētos   
      
   Thayer Definition: (Note: Thayer is not just another Dictionary, if is   
   actually a lexicon, similar to the BDB, just not as deep. Those who downplay   
   it know not what they speak.) It was before Strong;s time IIRCAITID   
      
   1) summoned, called to one’s side, especially called to one’s aid   
      
   1a) one who pleads another’s cause before a judge, a pleader, counsel for   
   defense, legal assistant, an advocate   
      
   1b) one who pleads another’s cause with one, an intercessor   
      
   1b1) of Christ in his exaltation at God’s right hand, pleading with God the   
   Father for the pardon of our sins   
      
   1c) in the widest sense, a helper, succourer, aider, assistant   
      
   1c1) of the Holy Spirit destined to take the place of Christ with the   
   apostles (after his ascension to the Father), to lead them to a deeper   
   knowledge of the gospel truth, and give them divine strength needed to enable   
   them to undergo trials and persecutions on behalf of the divine kingdom   
      
   Part of Speech: noun masculine   
      
   A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: a root word   
      
   Just look at the similarities between the two “comforters”.   
      
   And here is a brain teaser for the Pharisaical ones. “Do not let your heart   
   be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.” (Jhn 14:1)   
      
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