XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
From: .robert@mu.way
On Nov 14, 2025, James wrote
(Message-ID:):
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 18:09:08 -0800, Robert<.robert@mu.way> wrote:
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> > They claim to be witnesses for Christ.
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> OK
Meaning that you actually agree?
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>
> -- New King James
> John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life.
> No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Yet you claim that Jesus is not a deity.
So just who is Jehovah that you claim to be witnesses of?
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> > They Deny Jesus as God.
>
> OK
Meaning again that you actually agree with that statement?
>
> -- New King James
> 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man
> is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
What does that oft repeated quote actually mean to you? What is ‘Christ’?
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>
> > They claim to the Christians.
>
> If you mean "claim to be", OK
Yes, thank you for the grammar correction.
So how can you be a christian as opposed to a JW?
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> > They deny Jesus is a Deity.
>
> Negatrons. Jesus is "a god":
OH? So now you claim that Jesus is a Deity and Divine? Why the little g and
not G?
>
>
> (John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
> and the Word was a god.
That is a false translation, and it was taken from the NWT that you are so
ashamed of.
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> > They Deny the Law Covenant with Jehovah.
>
> Negatrons. We believe all the Bible:
That is far different than what you normally claim. You usually qualify that
statement declaring only the parts of the bible to be true is what the JW’s
define it as.
>
>
> -- New King James
> 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
> profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
> in righteousness,
In that case, according to Romans 8:8-9
“So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in
the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Rom
8:8-9)
Which means that according to the JW beliefs that only 144,000 of them are
spiritual and according to these scriptures the rest of y’all are not
christians, cannot be, and he has nothing to do with you, so that you cannot
represent him in any way.
And while we are on that topic of the 144K those are all Jewish young men who
have never been with a woman, all virgins. 12K from each of the specified 12
tribes. Which according to the JW dogma means that none of the womenfolk can
enter heaven. Yet you all drink their cool-aid.
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> > Their Big Lie is that they are Jehovah’s Witnesses.
>
> Negatrons:
You have stated for the last few decades that you are fulfilling the commands
of Jesus to Go into all the world. From “house to house”. Not the
commands of any Jehovah.
>
> - American Standard
> Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom
> I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I
> am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after
> me.
>
> Now, whose the liar?
You and every other JW. For “Ye are my witnesses” are the people of
Israel as spoken and Identified early on in that chapter.
Isa 43:1 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that
formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee
by thy name; thou art mine.
Isa 43:2 When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and
through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through
the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.
Isa 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I
gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Who is the Saviour of the Israelites in that day? Jesus?
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
So just how does that related, in the JW doctrines, with the truth of
scripture that says,...
Luk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God mySaviour.
Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which
is Christ the Lord.
Jhn 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying:
for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the
Saviour of the world.
Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right handto be a Prince and a
Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Act 13:23 Of this man's seed hath God according tohis promise raised unto
Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
You claim to believe all the Bible, but do you accept these truths as
infallible?
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> "LEARN FROM JESUS
Looking to Jesus, you say as the only Saviour, and claiming that only through
Jesus the Messiah can one have access to the Heavenly Father.
Yet you choose not to submit to Jesus, yielding to Him as the only Saviour.
The big lie of the JW is that they are the witnesses of Jehovah as they do
not follow Jehovah and do so according the Mosaic laws that Yehovah and the
nation of Israel agreed upon.
Instead, according to the JW they now follow a man, who in the past they also
denied that he was risen from the dead, and seen by many men.
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>
> James: zebrabible@proton.me
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