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   Thu, 13 Nov 2025 16:31:26 -0500   
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   "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and   
   "Honestly is my middle name"   
   James  wrote:   
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   > On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:58:20 -0600, Christ Rose   
   >  wrote:   
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   >> Wed, 12 Nov 2025 16:42:31 -0500   
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   >> "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and   
   >> "Honestly is my middle name"   
   >> James  wrote:   
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   >>>> c) ordained by God as agents of His wrath (Romans 13:4)   
   >>> Yes, at times God uses   
   >> You've already started out with a lie. Romans 13 says the governing   
   >> authorities ARE God's agents of wrath, not "may be at certain times".   
   > True, and we are grateful for that.   
   >   
   > Many times God used His 'enemies' to punish the Isrealites, or some   
   > other nation.   
   >   
   > And keep in mind Jesus statement to "Love your enemies". That stops   
   > war for anyone esp Christians, right in its tracks. And where are wars   
   > usually fought? In the military.   
      
      
   Stupid liar! You seek to confuse Jesus' instructions for civilian   
   believers (with regard to their personal grievances) with God's will for   
   governing authorities. Believers are told to leave room for the wrath of   
   God. God ORDAINED governing authorities to "PUNISH" evildoers with "the   
   sword". You promote confusion and LIES!   
      
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   raised Him from the dead?   
      
   That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death   
   penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death   
   satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John   
   2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your   
   sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.   
      
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   the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name   
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