XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
From: none@none.non
On Nov 17, 2025, James wrote
(Message-ID:):
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 23:27:25 -0800, None wrote:
>
> > On Nov 16, 2025, James wrote
> > (Message-ID:):
> >
> > > Fire! Fire! Pants on hellfire!
> > >
> > > Here we go again. Talking about one of the churches' main teachings:
> > > that a loving God tortures people with literal fire.
> > >
> > > Well, according to the Bible, you are free to burn your children for
> > > serious bad conduct. Doesn't that make you happy? You get to copy God.
> > > Oh yes, the Scripture:
Jer 7:30 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the
LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my
name, to pollute it.
*Jer 7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, whichis in the
valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the
fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. *
Jer 7:32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no
more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of
slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
Jer 7:33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the
heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.
Jer 7:34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the
streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the
voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be
desolate.
You have been cautioned before regarding your false and deceitful use of
verse 31. Your statement claiming that this verse allows people to burn
children for their bad conduct is the absurdity of the thoughts of the evil
one.
They were sacrificing their children unto Baal and other gods.
Jer 7:14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name,
wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers,
as I have done to Shiloh.
Jer 7:15 And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your
brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim.
And if you desire to know the mind of God then read this chapter from the
beginning unto the end of it. There was no mention of punishing their
children. But there is mention of God punishing his children for their evil
ways and doctrines of devils which was in his heart to do as they stirred up
the wrath of God, and although God tried to speak to his people they all
turned a deaf ear to him.
These same things do y’all do in this present day. You have the scriptures
but you deny the God of these scriptures, you know not the God of the
scriptures, you know not his heart, just like the peoples in this chapter of
Jeremiah. They misused and abused the Word of the Living God and developed
their own gods and the doctrines of worshipping him, as the evil one
implanted them into their hearts and minds.
What makes you think that you can escape the wrath of God by your deeds and
doctrines when it is made plainly obvious here that God will not contend with
people always and will turn them over to their sins. The dwell without fear
of the LORD. Their consciences being seared.
Y’all have a couple options, one that you allow your eyes to be opened to
see the Lord and see him as He IS, not as your religion teaches in vain, or
if you are fortunate to have been driven to your knees via unfortunate
circumstances of life which can be very painful, and at that point you will
either turn to the real God of Salvation for deliverance, or you will turn
completely away from him, as did these people to whom the chapter was
addressed whose ending was Godless, without hope, and your children with you.
You were made for God, God was not made for you.
> > >
> > >
> > > -- American Standard
> > > Ephesians 5:1 Be ye therefore imitators of God, as beloved children;
> > >
> > > Of course those that know Bible truth know that our loving Heavenly
> > > Father does not require TORTURE for justice. God never even thought of
> > > burning living humans alive:
That is a total lie, and you know it as you have been shown from the
scripture.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that
wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received
the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were
cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the
horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled
with their flesh.
Later on the word of God describes the final judgment wherein all whose names
are not written in the Book of Life, will be tossed there as well. They all
had their chances and made their choices, God denies them all and their
eternal home will be the same on created for Satan and all of his angels.
Those people will dwell forever with their god.
> > >
> > >
> > > -- New King James
> > > Jeremiah 7:31 "And they have built the high places of Tophet, which
> > > is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their
> > > daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into
> > > My heart.
> > >
> > > - Revised Standard
> > > Jeremiah 7:31 And they have built the high place of Topheth, which is
> > > in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their
> > > daughters in the fire; which I did not command, nor did it come into
> > > my mind.
> > >
> > > God had to think about it to create such a sadistic place.
> > >
> > > If you have questions about hellfire, just ask.
Why ask you, scriptures speaks about it loudly, and did Jesus when he dwelt
upon this earth. You claim to believe all the bible. Yet that lie is made
obvious by your denial of the truths within it, just like you misuse and
misunderstandings of the scriptures you presented here, and did so with full
intentions of deceiving others as well as yourself and all your family.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > James: zebrabible@proton.me
> >
> > JW’s Say that only Jehovah is God, yet here he mocks God and His word. Go
> > figure.
> > Especially James the JW.
> >
> > Or perchance is James now stating that Jesus IS God. LORD.
>
> No way Jose. Why don't I just throw in my hat and join the crowd? I
> would if the Bible agreed with them. BUT IT DOESN'T!
>
> I can't help that. I just go by what the Bible teaches. If it teaches
> that Jesus is God, I go by that. If it teaches that Jesus is not God,
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