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   > again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go   
   > unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.   
      
   That was preceded by this:   
      
   Jhn 14:26 but the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My   
   name, He shall teach you all things and shall remind you of all things that I   
   said to you.   
      
   In WHOSE NAME was the Holy Spirit sent?   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > (John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,   
   > > > and the Word was a god.   
   > >   
   > > That is a false translation, and it was taken from the NWT that you are so   
   > > ashamed of.   
   >   
   > And you hate Jesus. You see what a stinging effect a lie can have.   
   >   
   > Actually, it is one of the only valid translations of John 1:1. If you   
   > want the proof, just ask.   
      
   Your “proof” has already been determined to be false. By all spiritual   
   Believers in Jesus the Messiah.   
   Your saying that I hate Jesus, is to be expected. You are not of God, nor are   
   you Godly, but yes you are godly, in that you follow another Gospel.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > > They Deny the Law Covenant with Jehovah.   
   > > >   
   > > > Negatrons. We believe all the Bible:   
   > >   
   > > That is far different than what you normally claim. You usually qualify   
   that   
   > > statement declaring only the parts of the bible to be true is what the   
   > > JW’s   
   > > define it as.   
   >   
   > Where do you get these things? Maybe I will start asking you to QUOTE   
   > my statements for proof. If I am screwing up, I want to know.   
   >   
   > I will repeat it again. We accept the whole Bible. (2 Tim 3:16)   
      
   You have already denied that statement countless times. Openly and publicly   
   by qualifying it with words similar to ‘what you deem to be true according   
   to the JW Org. And claiming that all other Bibles save the NWT are false.   
   Also that you “accept the whole Bible” yet will not use that particular   
   rendition of the Bible, preferring to use a multitude of “false   
   translations” so as to appear that you are just like the rest.   
   God is not fooled, he see’s the intents of the hearts of men. All men.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > -- New King James   
   > > > 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is   
   > > > profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction   
   > > > in righteousness,   
   > >   
   > > In that case, according to Romans 8:8-9   
   > >   
   > > “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in   
   > > the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.   
   > > Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Rom   
   > > 8:8-9)   
   > >   
   > > Which means that according to the JW beliefs that only 144,000 of them are   
   > > spiritual and according to these scriptures the rest of y’all are not   
   > > christians, cannot be, and he has nothing to do with you, so that you   
   cannot   
   > > represent him in any way.   
   >   
   > Negatrons, negatrons, negatrons. You don't get the 144,000 teaching.   
   > So here it is in a nutshell.   
   >   
   > The 144,000 are the sheep that will rule will Jesus in Heaven over the   
   > earth. They have Jehovah's Holy Spirit. No others go to Heaven. The   
   > whole OT never went to Heaven. Neither did John the Baptist of the NT.   
   >   
   > The "other sheep" of Jesus are all earthly dwellers. They also have   
   > Jehovah's Holy Spirit and are Christians. They will be ruled by the   
   > 144,000 and Jesus.   
   >   
   > Now I gave no proof, so it you want it, just ask.   
      
   Ok, SO you have proof for those lies, you say? Then make another thread   
   solely devoted to proving the statements above, and start that thread by re   
   quoting what you just said here.   
      
   I would appreciate that, so you can use the correct scriptures to supposedly   
   support the line, and then I will reply to that with the Truth of the Word of   
   God. Which as you know well, as I have posted the truth of scripture on that   
   very subject a bunch of times. The sum total of which totally destroyed that   
   false doctrine. And do make sure as you do so which well defined earth you   
   are speaking of.   
      
   Have you the guts to openly defy the Word of the Living God?   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > And while we are on that topic of the 144K those are all Jewish young men   
   who   
   > > have never been with a woman, all virgins. 12K from each of the specified   
   12   
   > > tribes. Which according to the JW dogma means that none of the womenfolk   
   can   
   > > enter heaven. Yet you all drink their cool-aid.   
   >   
   > You are a single lone person in the middle of a scorching desert.   
      
   Nice try.....fail.   
   >   
   >   
   > I'll try to straighten it out. But will be brief again.   
   >   
   > They are SPIRITUAL JEWS of male and female. In Heaven, there is no   
   > male and female.   
      
   No scripture for that.   
   >   
   > They are virgins in the sense that Revelation has the great harlot   
   > fornicating with the nations. They are virgins in the sense that they   
   > have not done such acts.   
      
   No scripture for that either.   
   >   
   > Concerning those tribes, check them out. They are not ALL part of the   
   > original twelve tribes of Israel. And being in the book of Revelation,   
   > makes them prone to being symbolic.   
      
   Deceitful statement. They are all part of the tribes of Israel. The   
   explanation of why there are different names given I will account for, from   
   scripture, should you start the thread above as you promised to show proof.   
   >   
   >   
   > And yes, females are part of the 144,000.   
      
   Total lie.   
   >   
   >   
   > And just to add, you believe you are going to Heaven. It will be the   
   > shock of your life, to see that at best, you will live on a Paradise   
   > earth.   
      
   I know what I believe, and I believe it because of the revealed truth as   
   given by the Word of God.   
   There will be no shock to me in that sense. There is no such thing as a   
   “Paradise earth” spoken of in the Word of God.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Their Big Lie is that they are Jehovah’s Witnesses.   
   > > >   
   > > > Negatrons:   
   > >   
   > > You have stated for the last few decades that you are fulfilling the   
   > > commands   
   > > of Jesus to Go into all the world. From “house to house”. Not the   
   > > commands of any Jehovah.   
   >   
   > Recall what Jesus said. He did only what God told him. So yes, we are   
   > Jehovah's Witnesses, as well as Jesus'.   
      
   He never said to knock on doors. He did not say to go door to door. Another   
   false doctrine.   
   >   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > - American Standard   
   > > > Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom   
   > > > I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I   
   > > > am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after   
   > > > me.   
   > > >   
   > > > Now, whose the liar?   
   > >   
   > > You and every other JW. For “Ye are my witnesses” are the people of   
   > > Israel as spoken and Identified early on in that chapter.   
   > >   
   > > Isa 43:1 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he   
   that   
   > > formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called   
   > > thee by thy name; thou art mine.   
   > >   
   > > Isa 43:2 When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and   
   > > through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through   
   > > the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon   
   > > thee.   
   > >   
   > > Isa 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I   
   > > gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.   
   > >   
   > > Who is the Saviour of the Israelites in that day? Jesus?   
   > >   
   > > Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.   
   > >   
   > > So just how does that related, in the JW doctrines, with the truth of   
   > > scripture that says,...   
   > >   
      
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