XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
From: none@none.non
On Nov 18, 2025, James wrote
(Message-ID:<7q0phkp0dagootmolhedp9tkor0l3rs1gc@4ax.com>):
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 11:14:22 -0800, None wrote:
>
> > On Nov 17, 2025, James wrote
> > (Message-ID:):
> >
> > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 23:27:25 -0800, None wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 16, 2025, James wrote
> > > > (Message-ID:):
> > > >
> > > > > Fire! Fire! Pants on hellfire!
> > > > >
> > > > > Here we go again. Talking about one of the churches' main teachings:
> > > > > that a loving God tortures people with literal fire.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, according to the Bible, you are free to burn your children for
> > > > > serious bad conduct. Doesn't that make you happy? You get to copy
God.
> > > > > Oh yes, the Scripture:
> >
> > Jer 7:30 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the
> > LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my
> > name, to pollute it.
> >
> > *Jer 7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, whichis in the
> > valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the
> > fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. *
> >
> > Jer 7:32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no
> > more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley
> > of
> > slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
> >
> > Jer 7:33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the
> > heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.
> >
> > Jer 7:34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the
> > streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the
> > voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be
> > desolate.
> >
> > You have been cautioned before regarding your false and deceitful use of
> > verse 31. Your statement claiming that this verse allows people to burn
> > children for their bad conduct is the absurdity of the thoughts of the evil
> > one.
>
> Really? Let's see. God burns people. God says, "Become imitators of
> me" It's a logical deduction.
>
> But I also said that was not true, because God DOESN'T BURN people
> alive.
Why do you not understand v31 which I highlighted? It does not justify
anything your mind tries to create. You were shown that Yeshua is God, You
acknowledge that Yehovah is God, though not God of your life. You
acknowledged that the Holy Spirit is God. And Jesus said the Holy Spirit is
just like him. Yet you despise all the scripture that declares Yeshua is God.
You have been shown multiple times where God throws the Antichrist and his
false prophet directly into the lake of fire.
All those things and more speak to the fact that you are a hypocrite with
regards to believing ALL the Bible as well as calling yourself a Christian.
That you are insistent in the JW religion being the only correct one, just
like you believed when you were a RC that it was the only true church.
>
>
> >
> > They were sacrificing their children unto Baal and other gods.
> >
> > Jer 7:14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name,
> > wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your
> > fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.
> >
> > Jer 7:15 And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your
> > brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim.
>
> Think about it a second. God was referring to humans being sacrificed
> in fire. Then he said such a thing didn't even come into God's mind.
> Then God creates a place that burns humans alive. IT MAKES NO SENSE!
Because you flat out did not understand the mind of God when you read verse
31 above. As a point of fact he was not speaking there of Himself throwing
people into fire. He was speaking of people sacrificing their children to a
god that he did not know or recognize as being one, and the thought of humans
sacrificing to gods in a religious sense never entered his mind as He was
opposed to that. Read it again and see if that is not what He meant.
It has also been pointed out to you multiple times that the Lake of Fire and
Brimstone was a place created for Satan and his angels. Not intended for man.
But since many deny Jesus as God they will go there as their spiritual father
is Lucifer aka Satan.
>
>
> >
> > And if you desire to know the mind of God then read this chapter from the
> > beginning unto the end of it. There was no mention of punishing their
> > children. But there is mention of God punishing his children for their evil
> > ways and doctrines of devils which was in his heart to do as they stirred
up
> > the wrath of God, and although God tried to speak to his people they all
> > turned a deaf ear to him.
> >
> > These same things do y’all do in this present day. You have the
scriptures
> > but you deny the God of these scriptures, you know not the God of the
> > scriptures, you know not his heart, just like the peoples in this chapter
of
> > Jeremiah. They misused and abused the Word of the Living God and developed
> > their own gods and the doctrines of worshipping him, as the evil one
> > implanted them into their hearts and minds.
> >
> > What makes you think that you can escape the wrath of God by your deeds and
> > doctrines when it is made plainly obvious here that God will not contend
with
> > people always and will turn them over to their sins. The dwell without fear
> > of the LORD. Their consciences being seared.
>
> Is TORTURE the answer?
It is the reward for those who have not made Jesus Lord of their lives.
>
>
> Even most authorities do not torture their prisoners. They punish them
> yes, but don't resort to torture. What do humans think of torture?
It is torturous to dwell in prison. Why do you think many desire to die
rather than be returned to prison.
>
>
> "Torture
>
> 1
> > the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to
> > punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
> 2
> a
> > something that causes agony or pain
> b
> > anguish of body or mind : agony"
> (Merriam-Webster)
>
> They call torture SADISTIC.
>
> "Synonyms of torture
> Relevance
>
> Noun
>
> nightmare
> agony
> misery
> torment
> horror
> murder"
> (Merriam-Webster)
>
> "Torture
>
> The prohibition against torture is a bedrock principle of
> international law. Torture, as well as cruel, inhuman or degrading
> treatment, is banned at all times, in all places, including in times
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