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Thu, 20 Nov 2025 15:11:52 -0500
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"Honestly is my middle name"
James wrote:
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>> Stupid, brainwashing lie #7: symbolism cancels reality
>>
>> • Symbolic language communicates real truths consistent with the
>> image.
>>
>> • Revelation (for example) marks symbolism using “like” and
“as” and
>> then explains the images plainly (Revelation 1:20, ESV).
>>
>> • Luke 16:19–31 names Lazarus and reveals conscious comfort and
>> conscious torment after death.
> It is a parable. Look it up.
Luke 16:19–31 never identifies itself as a parable, and it stands apart
from every true parable Jesus told.
Not one of Jesus’ parables ever names a real historical person.
Luke 16 names Lazarus, Abraham, and Moses.
Jesus does not invent Abraham and Moses for storytelling. He is
describing a real post-death reality.
Every parable begins with an unmistakable marker:
“A sower went out to sow” (Matthew 13:3)
“A man planted a vineyard” (Matthew 21:33)
“The kingdom of heaven is like…” (Matthew 13:24, 31, 33, 44, 45, 47)
Luke 16 has none of these markers.
Jesus simply said, “There was a certain rich man…” (Luke 16:19).
He used that same wording for real events (Luke 16:1; Luke 19:12).
Even if someone insisted on calling it a parable, symbols and parables
teach truths *consistent* with the picture—not the opposite of it.
A parable about a shepherd does not teach the opposite of shepherding.
A parable about a vineyard does not teach the opposite of planting and
harvest.
So if Luke 16 were a parable, it would still teach:
• conscious comfort for the righteous after death
• conscious torment for the unrighteous after death
• an unbridgeable separation (“a great chasm fixed,” Luke 16:26)
• accountability immediately after death
• no second chances
But Jesus does not present it as a parable.
He presents it as revelation of what occurs beyond death.
The same truths appear everywhere else in Scripture:
“Today you will be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43)
“to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” (2
Corinthians 5:8)
“God can destroy both soul and body in *Gehenna*” (Matthew 10:28, KJV;
*hell* [Gehenna])
“the souls… cried out with a loud voice” (Revelation 6:9–10)
Luke 16 is Jesus’ clearest window into conscious existence after death.
Calling it a parable does not erase what Jesus teaches.
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