XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
From: none@none.non
On Nov 22, 2025, James wrote
(Message-ID:):
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 19:22:38 -0800, None wrote:
>
> Re: To James the JW. regarding your theory that God has abandoned the
> Jew.
>
> It's not my theory, it's a Bible fact:
>
> - International English
> Luke 13:35a Listen! Your house is completely empty.
According to your daffynitions that is a symbolic statement.
Thus meaningless.
>
>
> - New American with Apocrypha
> Luke 13:35 Behold, your house will be abandoned.
Same with that verse, symbolic. Quoting you from below, "Just keep in mind
what is literal and what symbolic.”
You cannot play on both sides of the street at the same time.
>
>
> So what does that mean? Originally, God chose the Jews as his special
> people. But when they rejected His Son, God rejected them as his
> special people.
Nope, Originally there were no Jews, no Israelites, no Hebrews.
God never rejected the Jews, some of them, rejected Him. The simple fact of
the matter is that the disciples were to go to the Jew first, after the LORD
Jesus Christ was resurrected. Even though Jesus told the Jews that he had
another flock to shepherd as well. That does not sound to anyone like he
rejected them now, does it? In fact, when a person is not willing to turn
their life over to Jesus, they refuse Him, just like the Jew did. It does not
matter how religious a person is, their heart is not with God, hence His
statement, “Depart from me, I never knew you”. And to those to whom he
will say that on Judgment day their response will “But, but, But, I blah
blah blah” he will respond but so does a salesman.
>
>
> There are many Jews that are JW's. Thus God is not partial,
Ooh really? You said above that he was done with them, that he rejected them.
There is no Jew that is a “JW” Like the JW they too hold to the ideation
that Jesus is not Lord, and are even more adamant about it than you.
> but
> accepts anybody. God's special people today are Christians. They are
> given the assignment of preaching the good news of God's Kingdom. Then
> the end will com. (Mt 24:14)
Your verse is meaningless to this topic. As a matter of fact many, such as
the latest renditions of the JW’s do, call themselves “Christian” most
just like to be part of the crowd, but do not have God dwelling in their
heart. They, like you, live a non-spiritual life, per your definitions. As
only the 144K Jews can be spiritual. And if as you say this all began in 70
AD then that slot was filled a long time ago, and per your daffynitions the
millennial rule was over long, long, ago. So just what time slot do you dwell
in.
OH, and by the by, where is your post on the great tribulation and the
millennial rule of King Jesus going to come. I asked you for your
clarifications on the JW belief a week or so ago, and as yet you have not
replied. “Just ask me” you say. And like all the rest of the time, there
is no response.
>
>
> >
> > Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led
> > awaycaptive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the
> > Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. That started in 607
> > B.C.E, with the fall of Jerusalem. And since then, the earth was ruled by
> > Gentiles
>
> That started around 70 C.E, when Jerusalem was attacked by the Roman
> Army.
The Greeks ruled the world, then the Romans, In 70 AD the Romans destroyed
the temple and killed the Jews who could not escape. The time of the Gentiles
was not fulfilled then, but it will be when the Body of Christ is
resurrected. It will be the end of the ekklesia of Christ as well as Gods
plan for the Gentiles.
>
> 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is that circumcision
> which is outward in the flesh;
> 29. but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of
> the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not
> from men but from God. (Rom 2:28,29; NKJV)
Interesting that you should quote that, being that none of the JW’s are not
spiritual, save the 144K slot that has already been filled up. Which means
that the lot of you are left out in left field. Without hope.
In fact those verses exclude all the current day JW’s the same as any other
heathen/gentile. For all your works are “outward works” of the flesh,
lacking the spirit of God. Water baptism is an outward work, ringing peoples
chimes, likewise. Since you claim to have no spirit, just a body and perhaps
a soul, both that die. How then can any of you do things, "in the Spirit”
per V 29?
>
>
> >
> > When the end of this age comes, which is soon, every soon, then the age or
> > the Israelites restarts,
>
> Negatrons. The Israelites were rejected by God and Jesus.
Then they cannot be a JW per your rules of doctrines.
>
>
> You are going back to literal again. God abandon the Jews long ago as
> His SPECIAL people. According to Paul, Christians are now SPIRITUAL
> JEWS:
Paul was speaking there, to Jews. Not Gentiles. You are pulling scriptures
out of context. That is what religious people do. Attempt to justify
themselves using scripture, and not by the washing of the Blood of Jesus.
>
>
> > at the beginning of the 70th Week of Years as Daniel
> > Prophesied. During that period the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord will
> > be. And at the end of it all when the Israelites turn to Jesus as their
King.
> > LORD of Lords, then it is that the millennial rule of King Jesus will be.
>
> Just keep in mind what is literal and what symbolic.
Phony Baloney rhetoric. One that stretches forth from the Mind of the Flesh.
Fleshly, not Godliness?spiritually of God.
>
> James: zebrabible@proton.me
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