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   Robert to All   
   Why are there so many sinning "Christian   
   24 Nov 25 08:54:28   
   
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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   The difference between the spirit filled Believer in Jesus, and those that   
   are without.   
      
   In this case a good substitute for the word “For” is "Because"   
      
   May the Heavenly Father give us the eyes to see, and the ears to hear what   
   the Lord is speaking to us.   
      
   Rom 8:1 There is, then, now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus, who   
   walk not according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit;   
      
   Rom 8:2 for the law of the Spirit of the life in Christ Jesus did set me free   
   from the law of the sin and of the death;   
      
   *Rom 8:3 for what the law was not able to do, in that it was weak through the   
   flesh, God, His own Son having sent in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for   
   sin, did condemn the sin in the flesh,   
      
   Rom 8:4 that the righteousness of the law may be fulfilled in us, who do not   
   walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.*   
      
   Rom 8:5 For those who are according to the flesh, the things of the flesh do   
   mind; and those according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit;   
      
   Rom 8:6 for the mind of the flesh is death, and the mind of the Spirit—life   
   and peace;   
      
   Rom 8:7 because the mind of the flesh is enmity to God, for to the law of God   
   it doth not subject itself,   
      
   Rom 8:8 for neither is it able; and those who are in the flesh are not able   
   to please God.   
      
   Rom 8:9 And ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit   
   of God doth dwell in you; and if any one hath not the Spirit of Christ—this   
   one is not His;   
      
   Rom 8:10 and if Christ is in you, the body, indeed, is dead because of sin,   
   and the Spirit is life because of righteousness,   
      
   Rom 8:11 and if the Spirit of Him who did raise up Jesus out of the dead doth   
   dwell in you, He who did raise up the Christ out of the dead shall quicken   
   also your dying bodies, through His Spirit dwelling in you.   
      
   In the ancient days, before Christ, the Israelites were dwelling in this   
   natural world, without the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. (Although there were   
   priests, prophets, etc. who were anointed with the Holy Spirit and upon them   
   He rested and that anointing could be removed. King Saul was an example of   
   that)   
      
   Those that sought to please God would wear constant reminders on their   
   bodies, as well as between the eyes of what the Written Law said, to help cut   
   down on their sinning ways. Since the Law of God is contrary to the desires   
   of our bodies, it was a burden to many as they did not delight, as a rule, in   
   God.   
      
   Just review the scriptures above and see what all the natural desires of men   
   are. Which speaks of the mind, soul, and body of mankind How it is contrary   
   to the ways of God and seeks to be self serving, and that also includes   
   religiosity in order to placate the conscience of the sin dwelling in them.   
   Yes, it is that ’nagging’ conscience that God put in man as a   
   reminder/motivator to seek the Almighty God. Which can be seared via an   
   overwhelming desire to fill the desires of our flesh until in no longer nags   
   us, Instead we become deafened to the spirit of God with all our excuses   
   creating a hardened heart because of our desires.   
      
   Then look at these same scriptures in regards to that same being who was Born   
   Again and filled with the Holy Spirit. The other comforter. Then look at the   
   freedom from sin, freed from the desire to sin or placate the body and its   
   desires, now rendered yo the back burners so that we can be dwelling with the   
   righteousness of God, and renewed in our minds that now can operate in a way   
   pleasing to God, PLUS we can also enjoy the satisfaction of walking according   
   to the desires of the Heavenly Father. Why or How? Through walking in the   
   Spirit of God, who know dwells inside of us. With the Fulness of God.. It now   
   becomes our pleasurable desire to fulfill the word of God because we are not   
   only empowered to do so, but He via His Holy Spirit guides us in our daily   
   walk. Enabling us to walk with Love. Not some fake fraudulent love, and many   
   feign, but a true Loving Kindness to those around us, especially to those who   
   dwell in the flock of Christ Jesus. It becomes a full part of our nature,   
   yes, a divine nature, as it was given us By the Heavenly Father. Do NOT Turn   
   away from this, repent if you have fallen away and be restored as the   
   Prodigal Son was restored.   
      
   Be mindful of verses 5-9 especially verse 9 and then walk in the Spirit with   
   Joy as found in V 10,11.   
      
   Then it will be that when you partake of Communion you will truly enjoy it   
   with thanksgiving knowing that God dwells in you, and freed you from your   
   sinning ways, habits, etc. that once so easily led you astray from God.   
      
   --   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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