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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Nov 25, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Thu, 20 Nov 2025 17:07:07 -0600, Christ Rose   
   > wrote:   
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   > > > > Stupid, brainwashing lie #4: post-death fire must follow earthly   
   physics   
   > > > >   
   > > > > • God is a "literal" Being, yet He does not consist of physical,   
   > > > > earth-physics material as we understand it. He doesn't cease to be   
   > > > > literal, simply because He is a spirit being.   
   > >   
   > > > What is your point?   
   > >   
   > > You routinely pretend to the effect that the fire can't be literal,   
   > > because it doesn't operate like earth-physics fire would. That implies   
   > > you are contending that if it's not earth-physics fire as you understand   
   > > it, then it can't be "literal". That's a stupid lie.   
   >   
   > If the fire is allegedly literal, how do you know that it doesn't   
   > follow physical laws?   
      
   Act 2:3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it   
   sat upon each of them.   
      
   Act 2:19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth   
   beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:   
      
   Act 7:30And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the   
   wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush.   
      
   In verse 3 a d 30 above there were flames seen, yet neither caused any   
   destruction. Seen with the eyes, in this world.   
      
   Spirits also operate in this world. The evil spirits posses people and create   
   many problems of the person as well as those around them. Scripture is full   
   of examples regarding these things. To deny that is to deny reality.   
      
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   > Physical laws we think we know, but under different environments,   
   > those same physical laws can act differently. For example, how would   
   > fire act in a black hole? It may be something totally different than   
   > what we are used to. It is just a segment of the fire law that we have   
   > never seen.   
      
   Why does a split atom create a huge fireball?   
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   >   
   > There is nothing in the Bible that shows that fire not obeying   
   > physical laws. Until I see a Scripture on it, I will have to go by   
   > what the Bible says now.   
      
   The very few scriptural samples I pointed you to knocks shows your lack of   
   understanding regarding the things of God.   
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   >   
   > And it says "death" and "hell" itself is tossed in there. (also the   
   > beast, etc) Obviously, fire would not have any effect on "death",   
   > since death is not a solid 3 dimensional thing.   
      
   Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him   
   was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the   
   fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with   
   death, and with the beasts of the earth.   
      
   Why do you continue to deny this scripture. Him #1 Death. Him #2 Hades, #3   
   “They” equals the names of the riders.   
      
   A literal translation of Rom 5:14 reads thus: “And nevertheless death   
   became king from Adam down to Moses, even over them who did not sin after the   
   fashion of Adam's sin [transgression] who is the type of Him [The Adam] who   
   was to come [The Coming One].”   
      
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   > James: zebrabible@proton.me   
      
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