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   True, there are rare instances in which words are addressed to Jesus   
   Christ in heaven. Stephen, when about to die, appealed to Jesus,   
   saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” (Ac 7:59) However, the   
   context reveals a circumstance giving basis for this exceptional   
   expression. Stephen at that very time had a vision of “Jesus standing   
   at God’s right hand,” and evidently reacting as if he were in Jesus’   
   personal presence, he felt free to speak this plea to the one whom he   
   recognized as the head of the Christian congregation. (Ac 7:55, 56;   
   Col 1:18) " (Insight, p.667)   
    	   
      
   >   
   >      • The earliest believers prayed to Him. Stephen called upon Him   
   >        at the moment of death and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my   
   >        spirit” (Acts 7:59, ESV). Only God receives the spirits of men. (see   
   right above)   
      
   >   
   >      • He sits on the throne where all creation worships Him.   
   >        Revelation shows every creature offering blessing and honor and   
   >        glory and dominion “to him who sits on the throne and to the   
   >        Lamb” (Revelation 5:13, ESV). True worship flows to the Father   
   >        and the Lamb together because they share one divine glory.   
      
   Yes, Jesus did only what God wanted. And it was God who gave him his   
   powers.   
      
      
   >   
   >      • Jesus claimed the right to equal honor with the Father. “All   
   >        may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father” (John 5:23,   
   >        ESV). Equal honor with the Father violates the command of   
   >        Matthew 4:10 unless the Son possesses the same nature as the   
   >        Father.   
      
   Yes, Jesus had similar attributes of God. That's why he said "I and   
   the Father are one". Also, Jesus didn't know the day or hour. And he   
   said, "only God is good."   
      
   Jesus was good also, but not to the degree of Jehovah God.   
      
   >   
   >      • The disciples also attributed passages about YHWH directly to   
   >        Jesus. Joel promised salvation to those who call on the name of   
   >        YHWH. Paul applied that promise to Jesus in Romans 10:9–13.   
      
   Negatrons. Paul was quoting Joel, so the Tetragrammaton should have   
   ended up in the NT. Notice the REAL Scripture there.   
      
   "For everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved" Now the   
   quote is in harmony with Joel.   
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   >        Isaiah saw the glory of YHWH. John said Isaiah saw the glory of   
   >        Jesus in John 12:41. YHWH would prepare His own way in Isaiah   
   >        40:3. The Gospels applied that text to the ministry of John the   
   >        Baptist preparing the way of Jesus.   
   >   
   >The Son does not compete with the Father for worship. He manifests the   
   >Father’s glory. He radiates the Father’s essence. His death and   
   >resurrection fulfilled the Father’s saving plan (1 Corinthians 15:1–4;   
   >Romans 3:23–26). Worshiping Him honors the Father who sent Him.   
      
   OK.   
      
   >   
   >Scripture upholds both truths at once. God alone receives worship. Jesus   
   >receives worship.   
      
   You just said "God alone" gets worshipped, adding Jesus makes it two.   
      
   >Therefore, the Son shares the God nature with the Father.   
      
   Yes, Jesus so much represented the Father that he said he and the   
   father are one. (John 10:30)   
   >   
   >> Churches: Earth will be destroyed by fire.   
   >> Bible: Earth will always exist. (Ec 1:4) (Ps 78:69) (Ps 119:90)   
   >   
   >   
   >Ecclesiastes 1:4 states, “A generation goes, and a generation comes, but   
   >the earth remains forever” (Ecclesiastes 1:4, ESV). Psalm 78:69 says God   
   >“built his sanctuary like the high heavens, like the earth, which he has   
   >founded forever” (Psalm 78:69, ESV). Psalm 119:90 adds that God   
   >“established the earth, and it stands fast” (Psalm 119:90, ESV).   
   >   
   >James claims these verses teach that the physical planet endures   
   >eternally. The flaw lies in misunderstanding the Hebrew term *?olam*   
   >(????). The word carries the idea of an age of indefinite duration, not   
   >intrinsic endlessness. Context determines whether the period stretches   
   >beyond history or lasts only as long as God purposes. The Old Testament   
   >uses the same word for things that clearly ended. These examples show   
   >that *?olam* does not automatically mean eternity.   
      
   Do some good twisting of the Scripture, so that it doesn't mean what   
   it says. You do this frequently in order to support the churches'   
   teachings.   
      
   >   
   >Exodus 21:6 uses *?olam* for the servant who serves his master   
   >“forever,” yet the service ends at death. That cannot indicate endless   
   >duration. Jonah 2:6 uses *?olam* for the time Jonah felt trapped in the   
   >deep, yet he emerged on the third day. Micah 4:5 uses *?olam* for the   
   >period nations walk in their gods, though God later judges those   
   >nations. Isaiah 32:14 uses *?olam* for desolation of palaces, though   
   >restoration follows. Psalm 24:7 calls ancient doors “everlasting”   
   >(*?olam*), yet they do not exist eternally.   
      
   Here is Strong's:   
      
   "Strong's Ref. # 5769   
      
   Romanized  `owlam   
   Pronounced o-lawm'   
      
   or `olam {o-lawm'}; from HSN5956; properly, concealed, i.e. the   
   vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future), i.e.   
   (practically) eternity; frequentatively, adverbial (especially with   
   prepositional prefix) always: "   
      
   Strong's shows more than one meaning for it. But the main meaning is:   
   "eternity" and "always".   
      
   Thus the earth will "always" be here for an "eternity".   
      
      
   >   
   >These examples show that *?olam* describes a long, enduring, or   
   >age-spanning period, not necessarily endless time.   
      
   But it also means endless time.   
      
   Therefore Solomon’s   
   >and David’s statements about the earth enduring “forever” point to God’s   
   >established order for this age, not the planet’s eternal   
   >indestructibility. The New Testament clarifies the end of this created   
   >order. Peter reveals that “the heavens will pass away with a roar, and   
   >the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved” (2 Peter 3:10,   
   >ESV). He explains that creation faces fiery dissolution, yet God   
   >prepares a “new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells”   
   >(2 Peter 3:13, ESV). John sees that same new creation in Revelation 21:1.   
      
   Peter did not contradict those OT Scriptures. The new earth is new   
   people. Just like in Noah's day, Moses wrote that the earth was   
   destroyed. But we know it was just the wicked.   
      
   So its a similar thing with Peter. The "new earth' is after God wipes   
   out all the wicked humans. Then there will be a new earth of "meek"   
   humans.   
      
   It's a similar thing with the new heavens. The heavens represent high   
   positions of rulerships. They will all be removed, and God's Kingdom   
   will take over. (Mt 24:14)   
      
      
   >   
   >Thus the biblical unity stands firm. The Old Testament’s use of *?olam*   
   >allows for long-term permanence within this age. The New Testament   
   >reveals the consummation: God dissolves the current order and brings   
   >forth a new creation that displays His glory in Christ forever.   
   >   
      
   Rather, God will remove all the wicked on the earth, thus resulting in   
   a "new earth". And the removal of the earthly ruling class results in   
   a "new heavens".   
      
   >   
   >> Churches: Unrighteous will burn forever in hellfire.   
   >> Bible: God never thought about a hellfire place. (Jer 7:31)   
   >   
   >   
   >Stupid lies and misrepresentation.   
      
   That's exactly what the churches teach.   
      
   >   
   >      • What never entered God's mind was offering your sons and   
   >        daughters in the fire as sacrifices to a false god. The   
   >        unrighteous are children of the devil, not God (John 8:44; 1   
   >        John 3:8; 1 John 3:10).   
      
   Here what you are saying. God's personality never thought of offering   
      
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