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   Thu, 22 Jan 2026 13:30:22 -0500   
      
   Watchtower Heretic James  wrote:   
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   >> Jesus promised the disciples that when the Holy Spirit came, He would   
   >> guide them into "all truth" (John 16:13). This understanding was   
   >> recorded for us in the epistles. The epistles are the divinely inspired   
   >> commentary on the Old Testament and the Gospels. The apostles interpret   
   >> the OT and gospels for us and applied them to the church in a relevant   
   >> way. You routinely try to develop entire, exclusive theologies based on   
   >> verse snippets from the OT, without regard for any New Testament   
   >> revelation.   
      
      
   > Completely wrong.   
      
      
   Let's analyze that statement. He says "completely wrong". If he were   
   speaking the truth, that would mean everything I say above is wrong.   
   Let's take a look at that:   
      
   "Jesus promised the disciples that when the Holy Spirit came, He would   
   guide them into "all truth" (John 16:13)." That's what I said. What did   
   Jesus actually say about that?   
      
         ““I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear   
          them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He   
          will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own   
          authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell   
          you things to come.” (John 16:12–13, NKJV)   
      
   So now we have you testifying that my claims are "completely" wrong,   
   when Jesus in fact promised the disciples that when the Holy Spirit   
   came, He would guide them into "all truth" (John 16:13). Did you make   
   your pronouncement without consulting or understanding what the Bible   
   actually says there, or did you knowingly misrepresent what I said?   
      
   You haven't demonstrated that a single thing said above is wrong, let   
   alone "completely" wrong.   
      
      
   > The OT and NT are all one book. The OT does not   
   > contradict the NT. It's all inclusive.   
      
      
   Exactly. That's how I know you're a liar when you cite a verse snippet   
   from the Old Testament, pretend like it represents the whole theology of   
   the subject, ignore what the New Testament says, then try to impute an   
   interpretation to it which contradicts the abundant, clear, progressive   
   teaching in the New Testament. If you actually believed the Bible was   
   one whole book, you'd stop pretending like your Old Testament verse   
   snippets establish the sum total of the doctrine, while ignoring and   
   contradicting what the New Testament says.   
      
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