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   Fri, 23 Jan 2026 12:18:27 0500   
      
   Watchtower Heretic James  wrote:   
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   >> He plainly states show me your faith without works and I'll show   
   >> you my faith by my works. Works are the EVIDENCE that you already have   
   >> saving faith.   
   >>   
   >> By trying to confuse the evidence of salvation toward men (good works)   
   >> with a term for being declared right by God, you PROVE you are promoting   
   >> a FALSE gospel which is "accursed" (Galatians 1:89).   
   > So again:   
   >   
   >  Living Bible   
   > James 2:17  So you see, it isn't enough just to have faith. You must   
   > also do good to prove that you have it. Faith that doesn't show itself   
   > by good works is no faith at allit is dead and useless.   
   >   
   > So, is your faith dead?   
      
      
   "Justified" can refer to being made, declared, or shown to be righteous.   
   James 2 plainly indicates the sense in which he uses the word. He   
   states, "I'll show you my faith by my works". He says he will "show" you   
   his faith by his works. He's talking about justification in the sense of   
   how to "show" men your faith. This necessitates that he already has the   
   saving faith before he shows it to others.   
      
   He also mentions the example of Abraham demonstrating his faith by his   
   works. Genesis 12-15 and Romans 4 agree Abraham was already counted   
   righteous by God through faith in God's promise, prior to when he   
   "showed" that faith by good works. James is not talking about   
   justification in the sense of how to be made or declared right by God,   
   but how to "show" yourself to be righteous to men. He's addressing the   
   error of people who claim to be right but who show no works which   
   evidence their claim to faith.   
      
   Paul, on the other hand, is talking about justification in the sense of   
   how someone becomes right and is declared righteous by God. That kind of   
   justification comes only by grace, only through faith, and only apart   
   from our works. Paul directly anathematizes trying to become right with   
   God by doing good works (Galatians 1:8-9). You seek to confuse   
   justification before men with justification before God, thereby   
   promoting an "accursed" false gospel that will lead men to damnation.   
      
   Galatians, Ephesians, and Romans argue strongly that men are justified   
   with God only on the basis of faith in Christ, not their works. James 2   
   directly states hes' talking about showing his faith by his works. He is   
   addressing justification in the sense of showing yourself to be   
   righteous to men rather than just claiming to be righteous. Paul is   
   addressing how to become and be declared right by God.   
      
   Galatians   
      
   “We know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through   
   faith in Jesus Christ” (Galatians 2:16, ESV).   
      
   “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through   
   the law, then Christ died for no purpose” (Galatians 2:21, ESV).   
      
   Ephesians   
      
   “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your   
   own doing; it is the gift of God” (Ephesians 2:8, ESV).   
      
   “Not a result of works, so that no one may boast” (Ephesians 2:9, ESV).   
      
   Romans   
      
   “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight”   
   (Romans 3:20, ESV).   
      
   “For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law”   
   (Romans 3:28, ESV).   
      
   “To the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the   
   ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness” (Romans 4:5, ESV).   
      
   “Since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through   
   our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1, ESV).   
      
   Titus   
      
   “He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but   
   according to his own mercy” (Titus 3:5, ESV).   
      
   James   
      
   “Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith   
   by my works.” (James 2:18, ESV)   
      
   James clearly shows he's talking about showing yourself to be righteous   
   to men, not how to become righteous with God.   
      
   False gospel lies which seek to confuse justification in the sense of   
   how you show yourself to be righteous to men, with how you become and   
   are declared righteous by God, try to pit Scripture against Scripture,   
   rather than showing the harmony. The are "accursed" and false gospels   
   which lead men to damnation (Galatians 1:8-9).   
      
   --   
   Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God   
   raised Him from the dead?   
      
   That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death   
   penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death   
   satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John   
   2:12). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your   
   sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.   
      
   On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on   
   the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name   
   of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).   
      
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