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Fri, 23 Jan 2026 13:59:07 -0500
Watchtower Heretic James wrote:
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> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 00:31:01 -0600, Christ Rose
> wrote:
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>> Wed, 21 Jan 2026 21:30:28 -0500
>> <4s32nk9dvp9e19uprors5bgo30592smbcu@4ax.com>
>> Watchtower Heretic James wrote:
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>>> I don't see the word "conscious" in Revelation 20:14,15. Do you?
>>
>> Who is the satanically manipulated FOOL who thinks it would have to say
>> "hey, they are conscious", when it tells you they are experiencing
>> "torment". You are not "tormented" when you don't exist. I 100% do not
>> believe you sit there and actually believe your own stupid lies and
>> intentional efforts to twist and deceive.
> Thank you for your 'upbuilding comment'. (Eph 4:29)
That's not how the Bible says to talk to heretics who oppose the truth
and promote a false gospel at every point as you do. See here:
“But Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit,
looked intently at him and said, “You son of the devil, you
enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy,
will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the
Lord?” (Acts 13:9–10, ESV)
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel
across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he
becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell
as yourselves.” (Matthew 23:15, ESV)
> How are they tormented, by a literal fire? Then how does it torment
> "hell" (Hades) and "death", which are also tossed into that alleged
> literal Lake of Fire? (Rev 20:14)
These questions have already been answered ad nauseum. That you continue
to pretend they have not just confirms to me your pattern of intentional
deceit. You seek to confine "literal" to "earth-physics literal". This
is a blatant lie.
• God is a literal being, but He and the angels are spirit beings
(John 4:24; Hebrews 1:14). God is not a non-literal being,
simply because He cannot be affected by earthly fire. Thus,
"literal" is not limited to "earth-physics literal". Spirit
beings are literal beings, but not subject to earth physics.
• The lake of fire is made for spirit beings (Matthew 25:41), not
earth-physics beings.
• Your mockery falsely attempts to confine the meaning of
"literal" to "earth-physics literal". This is a blatant lie.
• As for death and hell being tortured, it is not necessary to
prove what neither I nor the Bible ever said. Revelation does
not say death and hell are tortured. It says the persons who
are thrown into it experience conscious "torment", "day and
night", "forever and ever".
You promote idiotic deceit at every turn. You don't even argue against
what the Bible or I actually say. You fabricate lies, try to attribute
them to what others say, then pretend you're defeating your own stupid
lies that you invented. That's about all I've seen you doing in here,
other than repeating the same refuted idiotic lies over and over.
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penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
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sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.
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