XPost: alt.atheism, alt.bible   
   From: sam@spade.invalid   
      
   Attila  wrote:   
   > On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 10:25:40 -0800, Samuel Spade   
   >  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > >Attila  wrote:   
   > >> On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 21:57:35 -0800, Samuel Spade   
   > >>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> >Attila  wrote:   
   > >> >> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 21:51:37 -0500, James in alt.atheism   
   > >> >   
   > >> >snip   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> >Many churches teach that all righteous people will go to Heaven. And   
   > >> >> >they teach that all wicked people will go to hellfire. Who does that   
   > >> >> >leave left on the earth? Zero.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> So many addressable items:   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> What churches teach is irrelevant since none of it is based   
   > >> >> on unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and credible evidence.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> I have yet to see any evidence that any heaven exists.   
   > >> >> I have yet to see any evidence that any hellfire exists.   
   > >> >> Who defines what is "wicked"?   
   > >> >   
   > >> >   
   > >> >You missed his point.  James is speaking scornfully of the churches, as   
   > >> >JWs often do.  Why are you asking him to defend their "teachings"?   
   > >>   
   > >> Why not?  Does he have any supporting evidence?   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >You're asking James for supporting evidence that churches are wrong?   
   > >   
   > >You seem confused.   
   >   
   > I misread the sentence structure.  He is usually supporting   
   > some silly superstition if I remember correctly.   
      
      
   Yeah, just a different set of superstitions.  Most of the church   
   christians disown JWs for having the wrong ones.   
      
      
   > >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the   
   > >> >> existence of any god.   
   > >> >   
   > >> >Valid point, but you've way overdone it.  Anything new?   
   > >>   
   > >> I keep asking but no one ever answers.  I see a lot of   
   > >> avoidance and conversation endings.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >Then just keep repeating it.  That always helps.   
   >   
   > I do every time I see someone presenting belief as fact.   
      
   One man's fact is another man's ideological quirk.  I mean, you saw in   
   the video how ICE goons shot a disarmed man in the back, right?   
      
      
      
   > >> I try to always challenge beliefs presented as fact.  A   
   > >> person is entitled to their own personal beliefs.  They are   
   > >> not entitled to their own personal facts.   
      
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