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   Wed, 28 Jan 2026 13:07:59 -0500   
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   Watchtower Heretic James  wrote:   
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   >>       “He looked and shook the nations; then the eternal [olam]   
   >>        mountains were scattered” (Habakkuk 3:6, ESV).   
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   >> Mountains called “eternal” are still shaken and altered by God.   
      
   > If that is God's will.   
      
   Exactly—and that concession ends the argument.   
      
   If the “eternal [olam] mountains” can be shaken, scattered, and altered   
   **when God wills**, then olam cannot mean absolute, unchangeable   
   eternity. It means enduring stability **for as long as God appoints**,   
   not permanence beyond His sovereign purpose.   
      
   “He looked and shook the nations; then the eternal [olam] mountains were   
   scattered; the everlasting hills sank low” (Habakkuk 3:6, ESV).   
      
   The text itself proves the point. Mountains—called olam—do not outlast   
   God’s action. They endure until God acts upon them. The word describes   
   perceived permanence from a human standpoint, not metaphysical eternity.   
      
   And this is not an isolated case. Scripture repeatedly uses olam this way:   
      
   – Mountains called “everlasting,” yet shaken (Habakkuk 3:6).   
   – Doors called olam, meaning ancient (Psalm 24:7).   
   – Stones called olam, meaning enduring as a memorial (Joshua 4:7).   
   – Servitude called olam, defined as lifelong (Deuteronomy 15:17).   
      
   So when you say, “If that is God’s will,” you are conceding the decisive   
   point:   
      
   God defines the limits of olam.   
      
   And Scripture tells us plainly that it **is** God’s will to act on the   
   present heavens and earth:   
      
   “They will perish… like a garment they will be changed” (Psalm 102:26,   
   ESV).   
   “The heavens will pass away with a roar” (2 Peter 3:10, ESV).   
   “From his presence earth and sky fled away” (Revelation 20:11, ESV).   
   “The first heaven and the first earth passed away” (Revelation 21:1, ESV).   
      
   So yes—*if that is God’s will*.   
   And Scripture explicitly says that it is.   
      
   The appeal to olam does not protect the present creation from change.   
   Habakkuk itself proves that even what appears “eternal” yields instantly   
   to the will of God.   
      
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