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   jumpin jeffery to FrozenNorth   
   Re: USB Network Adaptor   
   07 Jul 06 23:52:55   
   
   XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.hacker, alt.hackers.malicious   
   From: bucove@telus.net   
      
   FrozenNorth wrote:   
   > dave hillstrom wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:15:17 GMT, jumpin jeffery    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> bobbbybobbyiii@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>> Hello everyone   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I have an 'Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G USB Network Adaptor'   
   >>>> installed on my computer. Does anyone know a way to change or spoof the   
   >>>> MAC Address of the USB?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> How do you achieve this without the use of software? And is possible   
   >>>> with the use of software? TIA   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (I've already checked properties via the 'Device Manager'.)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Bobby   
   >>>>   
   >>> Your USB isn't the one with the MAC address, it's the   
   >>> eathernet port. It's in the hardware. I don't know of any   
   >>> way to change it.   
   >>> Why would you want to?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> It might be possible to spoof it through a software hack,   
   >>> but this would be 1) risky 2) slow your connection 3) not   
   >>> easy 4) probably unnessesary if you are using an intranet   
   >> the MAC address on ethernet cards is held in a teensie little piece of   
   >> ROM silicon on you network card.  there is no changing it in hardware.   
   >> (well, ~I~ could, with a soldering iron and a new serial PROM part,   
   >> but it would take some research and time.)  its there so that every   
   >> single goddamned NIC has a unique hardware address so that clashes on   
   >> networks are minimized.   
   >>   
   >> as for the wireless network, i imagine they ALSO use a unique set of   
   >> numbers to eliminate data confusion.  but dont get the USB interface   
   >> on the box confused logically with the wireless interface on the box.   
   >> USB uses a different format for unique identification, as the maximum   
   >> allowed USB devices that can be connected all together is rather small   
   >> compared to the bazillions that ethernet, or potentially wireless, can   
   >> connect.   
   >>   
   >> if what you are trying to do is to masquerade as a recognized wireless   
   >> device on someone elses network, say your neighbor who has broadband,   
   >> if they have the basic security shit set up for their wireless network   
   >> youll have a VERY hard time getting in.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> jesuslordgod.  i actually sound like i know what im talking about.   
   >>   
   >> scary.   
   >   
   > Actually some windows drivers will let you change the MAC addy that is   
   > broadcast, some 3Com cards if memory serves and probably some others, also   
   > under linux it is trivial to change the MAC address.   
   >   
   OK, I know who I'm asking stuff to.   
   All these knowledgeable folks sound so dangerous!   
   Knowledge=Dangerous=Sexy??   
      
   Isn't the MAC change under Linux a spoofy thing?   
   Like, it's intercepted and altered, the card MAC stays the   
   same, doesn't it?   
   It's not a rewrite of a PROM that the Linux drivers do, is   
   it? Not like you could Linux install it, change the MAC, and   
   then put the card inna MSbox and have a new MAC on it, right?   
   I thought they weren't allowed to put the MAC in a   
   programmable space...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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