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|    M'I-5,Persec ution ' MI5 Was te T axpaye    |
|    26 Dec 07 08:41:22    |
      XPost: alt.2600.cracks, alt.2600.crackz, alt.2600.warez       XPost: alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove              MI5 Persecution Update:. Friday 30 April, 1999              If You Intend To Reply, Please Read. This       Please.... keep. your response to one page!. Faxes over a page or two will       be deleted without being. read.              Somewhere. between 0 and 100%              The last few days there have been no clear recordable instances. of       abuse. However, while travelling on the Underground,. while walking around       near my home and going to friends homes,. I am constantly troubled by       thoughts that those. people over there might be about to get at me; that       the couple. sitting in the opposite seats laughing are in fact laughing at       me; et cetera,. et cetera.              A comment by a scientist to the BSE inquiry sticks in my. mind. He       described the possible scale of the epidemic as "between. 0% and 100%". It       might not. be happening, it might not happen at all, to any discernable       degree.... or it might be total. Without clear recording,. which seems to       have become impossible the last couple of weeks, there is no way. of       knowing whether the harassment really is continuing, whether. we have       entered a temporary hiatus, or whether perhaps it has. perhaps stopped for       now.              But. for the time being I think there arent any reasons to dicontinue these       faxes. I only re-started them six weeks ago. in response to a resumption of       MI5 harassment; and I think I will. need to be more convinced of absence of       persecution before I discontinue my. complaints.              The Newscasters are. still watching              In the last few weeks there. have been at least a couple of fairly overt       instances of "interactive. watching" by newscasters. I reported this in a       previous "MI5 Persecution. Update".              These instances are really very. rare compared to 1990-91, when there were       many dozens of such occurrences. Undoubtedly the reduction is due. to my       practice of videotaping everything I see. Recently. I had the opportunity       of showing this years. "happenings" (Jon Snow/Nicholas Witchell) to my       psychiatrist, and he agreed that. in both cases the newscasters were       expressing merriment. without visible cause, and that objectively it might       be possible for my claims. to be true - although of course other people       reported similar thoughts to him, and this thinking is usually. a symptom       of. illness.              Read About the MI5 Persecution on the World. Wide Web              The March 1998. issue (number 42) of .net Magazine reviews the website       describing it as an "excellent. site". Since August 11, 1996 over 50,000       people have browsed. this website.              You. are encouraged to read the web pages which include              a FAQ (frequently asked questions) section outlining. the nature of the       persecutors, their methods of. harassment through the media, people at work       and among the. general public              an evidence section, which carries. audio and video clips of media and       workplace harassment, rated according to. how directly I think they refer to me              objective descriptions of the state. security agencies involved              scanned texts of. the complaints I have made to media and state security       agencies. involved              posts which have been made. to netnews over the last four years on this topic              Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected. representative, as ever       refuses. to help.              MI5 Waste. Taxpayer Millions on Pointless Hate-Campaign              Recently I was talking to an independent observer about. the nature and       purpose of the perceived campaign of persecution against me. The. person I       spoke to, a highly intelligent man, said he was struck by. the utter       pointlessness of the perceived. campaign against me. He also said that, if       my theories were in fact true, many people would have. to be involved, in       the surveillance itself, and in the technical side of. the delivery of       information from my home to TV studios for example, if the. "interactive       watching" were happening as described. He voiced. these thoughts without       any. prompting from me; but both I and other observers had arrived at       pretty much the same conclusions,. some years ago.              I saw a team. of four men at Toronto Airport in 1993              To carry out the surveillance alone, full-time, would employ four. or five       men, or their equivalent in terms of man-hours. Each. man would "work" an       eight-hour. shift, so you would need at least three men doing the       surveillance, plus a connecting link / manager. An indicator. that this       estimate is correct arrived in 1993, when I was accosted. by one of a group       of four men at. Toronto Airport; he said, laughing, "if he tries to run       away well find him". Plainly these were the men. who had been involved in       the intrusive surveillance. of me for the preceding three years.              On other occasions, I have seen the same man on two or. three occasions. On       one. such occasion, at Ottawas Civic Hospital in November 1996; he gave his       name to the doctor as "Alan Holdsworth" or some such; my hearing is. not       very good sometimes. and I am not sure of the surname, although I am sure       "Alan" was. his first name. I saw exactly the same man again in Ottawa, at       the airport, in July 1998. Obviously, other people must be. "working" with       this person; he would not be the sole agent employed. in this case.              Usenet. readers views on the Cost to MI5 of Running the Campaign              Here's what a couple. of other people on internet newsgroups / Usenet       (uk.misc). had to say regarding the cost of running such an operation...              PO: >Have some sense, grow up and smell. reality. What you are talking about       PO: >would take. loads of planning, tens of thousands of pounds and lots of       PO: >people involved in the. planning, execution and maintenance of it. You       PO: >must have a very. high opinion of yourself to think you are worth it.              and......              PM: >But why? And why you? Do you realize how. much it would cost to keep       PM: >one person under continuous surveillance for five years?. Think about       PM:. >all the man/hours. Say they _just_ allocated a two man team and a       PM: >supervisor. OK.,. Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a year. Two men,       PM: >#20,000 a year each.. But they'd need to work in shifts -- so it would       PM: >be. six men at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more       like       PM: >#30,000 to the. employer.)       PM:. >       PM: >So,. we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for the       PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've. got the hardware involved. And       PM: >any transcription that needs doing. You don't. think the 'Big Boss'       PM: >would listen. to hours and hours of tapes, do you.       PM:. >       PM:. >So, all in all, you couldn't actually do the job for much less than       PM: >a quarter million a year.. Over five years. What are you doing that makes       PM: >it worth. the while of the state to spend over one and a quarter million       PM: >on. you?              Those are pretty. much the sort of calculations that went through my head              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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