XPost: alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.thebird.copwatch,
alt.privacy.anon-server
XPost: misc.legal
From: nobody@dizum.com
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Greegor wrote:
>KRP > I am certain that if you can control the
>KRP > a-hole, NOBODY from these newsgroups
>KRP > will ever bother you again.
>
>A > Remailer operators don't "control" the people who use their
>services. =A0If
>A > the remailer is being run properly, it's impossible for the
>operator to
>A > know who is accessing the remailer, or from where.
>A >
>A > APAS is for technical aspects of running a remailer. Do you have
>anything
>A > to discuss in that regard?
>
>Technical aspects? You're joking, right?
No.
>
>I invite everybody to go to alt.privacy.anon-server
>for a good laugh about these ""technical aspects"".
>
>""Our"" Davey ""also"" made claims about the
>"remop community" months ago.
So?
>The wider world learned about Mr. Johnson's
>legal pickle and how one remop named eelbash
>was harassed extensively by Dave and the greater
>"remop community" for refusing to aid and abet
>criminal actions using anonymous remailers.
I don't know "Dave" or "Mr. Johnson" and haven't heard them mentioned in
apas though. Why do you feel so compelled to drag your flames in here?
If "eelbash" is your witness, you're probably in trouble. That particular
remop was under a lot of scrutiny for unethical practices in the way he ran=
his remailer, including logging activity and monitoring/filtering content.
>
>mixmaster at remailer.privacy.at
>
>Are you actually a REMOP or are you
>just ""Our"" Davey pretending to be a
>remailer operator himself?
I have been a remop and a remailer user. No my name isn't Davey and I
don't know him.
>When Davey and others harassed eelbash,
>did you support or encourage that activity?
I'm not aware of anyone harassing eelbash. I do remember several members
of the remailer community, rightfully, calling him to task on his
questionable practices. I don't recall anyone named "Davey" being involved=
in this.
>
>Did you honestly think you could run anonymous
>remailers and not expect a lot of attention and
>scrutiny for the abuse and criminal uses of the service?
In actuality, it's an issue which rarely comes up. When I was running a
remailer, my system processed an average of 200,000 messages per months. I=
received maybe 2 complaints a month about abuse.=20
>You're not really in Austria, are you? LOL
No.
Are you so ignorant that you don't grasp that "Austria" is the name of the
remailer I'm posting through?
>
>Whether you're a remop or not, ""Our"" Davey
>sure is likely to bring "the remop community"
>some unwanted attention!
>
>Various ""Anonymous"" threats and forgeries
>threatening firearms violence, taking false credit
>for the downing of a French airliner, and apparent
>solicitation to rape might make things a bit
>difficult for the "remop community".
>
>Wouldn't you say?
No.
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Anonymous Remailer (austria)
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, krp wrote:
>>"Anonymous Remailer (austria)" wrote in=20
>>message news:3fc0d5994aee245ec928ed65b61d117a@remailer.privacy.at...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, krp wrote:
>>>>"Anonymous Remailer (austria)" wrote in=
>>>>message news:8a50b9795f85b8ff56d7d2f8107df890@remailer.privacy.at...
>>>>>
>>>>> In article=20
>>>>> <793bd4137fba03c58e2ba8113ffafd22@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
>>>>> Fritz Wuehler
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Greegor wrote:
>>>>>> >G > Help him out, Kent!
>>>>>> >G > Soon Dan can be as popular as you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you please keep your crap out of alt.privacy.anon-server?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amen to that!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How about YOU keep YOUR shit out of our newsgroups? Leash your dog and
>>>>nobody will bother you in your little playpen. Deal?
>>>
>>> I, for one, have never posted in any of "your" newsgroups. I don't=20
>>> suspect
>>> that any other apas regulars have either, other than in response to=20
>>> threads
>>> you've crossposted here.
>>
>>Just your DAVID MOORE who harasses everyone.
>
>There is, as far as I know, no remailer operator by that name.
>
>It's possible that there is someone by that name who uses remailers. That=
>doesn't mean that the remailer operators endorse anything he might
>do....any more than every Road Runner user shares liability for what you
>might post.
>
>APAS is a group centered around the technical aspects of operating a
>remailer. If you feel someone is abusing you via a remailer, the first
>step would be to contact the administrator of that particular remailer
>PRIVATELY. We can block your e-mail address so that you can no longer
>receive e-mails from that particular remailer. If your problem is with
>someone on a usenet group, you should be able to use your news reader's
>kill file feature.
You're wasting your time. Krp is a notorious net kook, and has used
remailers himself to abuse in the past. He comes in here every few months
or so to pick a fight. Maybe 10 years ago, he was here calling for the
abolishment of remailers. He has a decade long vendetta against this
"Moore" guy who may also be using remailers. Krp's beef was that the
remops refused to shut Moore's access off, not understanding that what he
asked was impossible.
In this ten years, he's never bothered to place the "Moore" guy on ignore.
This leads to the logical conclusion that he enjoys this shit.
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