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   Anonymous Remailer (austria) to Greegor   
   Re: the anonymous remailer community?   
   12 Oct 09 05:14:05   
   
   10c52198   
   XPost: alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.thebird.copwatch,   
   alt.privacy.anon-server   
   XPost: misc.legal   
   From: mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at   
      
   On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Greegor  wrote:   
   >KRP > I am certain that if you can control the   
   >KRP > a-hole, NOBODY from these newsgroups   
   >KRP > will ever bother you again.   
   >   
   >A > Remailer operators don't "control" the people who use their   
   >services. =A0If   
   >A > the remailer is being run properly, it's impossible for the   
   >operator to   
   >A > know who is accessing the remailer, or from where.   
   >A >   
   >A > APAS is for technical aspects of running a remailer. Do you have   
   >anything   
   >A > to discuss in that regard?   
   >   
   >Technical aspects?     You're joking, right?   
      
   No.   
      
   >   
   >I invite everybody to go to alt.privacy.anon-server   
   >for a good laugh about these ""technical aspects"".   
   >   
   >""Our"" Davey ""also"" made claims about the   
   >"remop community" months ago.   
      
   So?   
      
   >The wider world learned about Mr. Johnson's   
   >legal pickle and how one remop named eelbash   
   >was harassed extensively by Dave and the greater   
   >"remop community" for refusing to aid and abet   
   >criminal actions using anonymous remailers.   
      
   I don't know "Dave" or "Mr. Johnson" and haven't heard them mentioned in   
   apas though.  Why do you feel so compelled to drag your flames in here?   
      
   If "eelbash" is your witness, you're probably in trouble.  That particular   
   remop was under a lot of scrutiny for unethical practices in the way he ran=   
      
   his remailer, including logging activity and monitoring/filtering content.   
      
      
   >   
   >mixmaster at remailer.privacy.at   
   >   
   >Are you actually a REMOP or are you   
   >just ""Our"" Davey pretending to be a   
   >remailer operator himself?   
      
   I have been a remop and a remailer user.  No my name isn't Davey and I   
   don't know him.   
      
      
   >When Davey and others harassed eelbash,   
   >did you support or encourage that activity?   
      
   I'm not aware of anyone harassing eelbash.  I do remember several members   
   of the remailer community, rightfully, calling him to task on his   
   questionable practices.  I don't recall anyone named "Davey" being involved=   
      
   in this.   
      
   >   
   >Did you honestly think you could run anonymous   
   >remailers and not expect a lot of attention and   
   >scrutiny for the abuse and criminal uses of the service?   
      
   In actuality, it's an issue which rarely comes up.  When I was running a   
   remailer, my system processed an average of 200,000 messages per months.  I=   
      
   received maybe 2 complaints a month about abuse.=20   
      
   >You're not really in Austria, are you?   LOL   
      
   No.   
      
   Are you so ignorant that you don't grasp that "Austria" is the name of the   
   remailer I'm posting through?   
      
   >   
   >Whether you're a remop or not, ""Our"" Davey   
   >sure is likely to bring "the remop community"   
   >some unwanted attention!   
   >   
   >Various ""Anonymous"" threats and forgeries   
   >threatening firearms violence, taking false credit   
   >for the downing of a French airliner, and apparent   
   >solicitation to rape might make things a bit   
   >difficult for the "remop community".   
   >   
   >Wouldn't you say?   
      
   No.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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