XPost: alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.thebird.copwatch,   
   alt.privacy.anon-server   
   XPost: misc.legal   
   From: compuelf@gmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:14:05 +0200 (CEST), "Anonymous Remailer   
   (austria)"  wrote:   
      
   >   
   >On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Greegor  wrote:   
   >>KRP > I am certain that if you can control the   
   >>KRP > a-hole, NOBODY from these newsgroups   
   >>KRP > will ever bother you again.   
   >>   
   >>A > Remailer operators don't "control" the people who use their   
   >>services. =A0If   
   >>A > the remailer is being run properly, it's impossible for the   
   >>operator to   
   >>A > know who is accessing the remailer, or from where.   
   >>A >   
   >>A > APAS is for technical aspects of running a remailer. Do you have   
   >>anything   
   >>A > to discuss in that regard?   
   >>   
   >>Technical aspects?     You're joking, right?   
   >   
   >No.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>I invite everybody to go to alt.privacy.anon-server   
   >>for a good laugh about these ""technical aspects"".   
   >>   
   >>""Our"" Davey ""also"" made claims about the   
   >>"remop community" months ago.   
   >   
   >So?   
      
        Ask Greg to link to these phantom claims.   
        He won't do so, since there has never been any posts from David   
   containing what Greg claims.   
      
   >>legal pickle and how one remop named eelbash   
   >>was harassed extensively by Dave and the greater   
   >>"remop community" for refusing to aid and abet   
   >>criminal actions using anonymous remailers.   
   >   
   >>The wider world learned about Mr. Johnson's   
   >   
   >I don't know "Dave" or "Mr. Johnson" and haven't heard them mentioned in   
   >apas though.  Why do you feel so compelled to drag your flames in here?   
      
        Greg is mentally retarded.  He honestly can't understand how it's   
   not normal to do such.   
        Greg will, in all probability, post vast information that he   
   claims is about me because he honestly believes everyone with the same   
   first and last name are all the same person.  Even when one is a   
   Usenet nym, as is the case with me.   
        He believes, with every fiber of his being, that I live in   
   several different U. S. states, and one place in Canada, all at the   
   same time.  He's claimed on three occasions to have PROVED I live in   
   specific locations by use of the phone book.   
        Yes, Greg really is mentally retarded and honestly can't see the   
   flaws in his claims.  I don't mean that as an insult, though it may   
   come across as such.  I'm simply stating as well established fact.   
      
   >   
   >If "eelbash" is your witness, you're probably in trouble.  That particular   
   >remop was under a lot of scrutiny for unethical practices in the way he ran   
   >his remailer, including logging activity and monitoring/filtering content.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>mixmaster at remailer.privacy.at   
   >>   
   >>Are you actually a REMOP or are you   
   >>just ""Our"" Davey pretending to be a   
   >>remailer operator himself?   
   >   
   >I have been a remop and a remailer user.  No my name isn't Davey and I   
   >don't know him.   
      
        Pangborn will claim you are, and Greg will follow suit.  In Ken's   
   mind, *everyone* who uses a remailer is David, and, well, Greg just   
   follows what Ken claims.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>When Davey and others harassed eelbash,   
   >>did you support or encourage that activity?   
   >   
   >I'm not aware of anyone harassing eelbash.  I do remember several members   
   >of the remailer community, rightfully, calling him to task on his   
   >questionable practices.  I don't recall anyone named "Davey" being involved   
   >in this.   
      
        It's far more likely that David was not involved.   
        Ken claimed David made various comments.  He never expressed what   
   these comments were.   
        Greg buys everything Ken sells without question.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>Did you honestly think you could run anonymous   
   >>remailers and not expect a lot of attention and   
   >>scrutiny for the abuse and criminal uses of the service?   
   >   
   >In actuality, it's an issue which rarely comes up.  When I was running a   
   >remailer, my system processed an average of 200,000 messages per months.  I=   
   >   
   >received maybe 2 complaints a month about abuse.=20   
   >   
   >>You're not really in Austria, are you?   LOL   
   >   
   >No.   
   >   
   >Are you so ignorant that you don't grasp that "Austria" is the name of the   
   >remailer I'm posting through?   
      
        Sadly, Greg is unable to understand.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>Whether you're a remop or not, ""Our"" Davey   
   >>sure is likely to bring "the remop community"   
   >>some unwanted attention!   
   >>   
   >>Various ""Anonymous"" threats and forgeries   
   >>threatening firearms violence, taking false credit   
   >>for the downing of a French airliner, and apparent   
   >>solicitation to rape might make things a bit   
   >>difficult for the "remop community".   
   >>   
   >>Wouldn't you say?   
   >   
   >No.   
      
        You may need to explain that to Greg.   
      
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   "Kent"   
      
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