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|    Why you shouldn't believe the TikTok Ban    |
|    28 Jan 25 22:00:11    |
   
   XPost: hispagatos.talk, alt.2600, alt.2600.madrid   
   From: rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid   
      
   EVERYONE IS LYING - Why you shouldn't believe the TikTok Ban   
      
   Privacy friendly url:   
   - https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=fkAFNLolebk   
   Evil non-private tracker-installer bad-javascript ip-scrapper shit tube:   
   - https://youtu.be/fkAFNLolebk   
      
      
   I am going to show how all involved parties are intentionally misleading   
   you to advance their own agenda at your expense. And I also know what   
   the ultimate solution to all the problems surrounding TikTok is. The US   
   government’s argument is that TikTok is a hostile app that is controlled   
   by the Chinese government and used to conduct covert operations inside   
   the United States. They argue that the People’s Republic of China   
   conducts mass surveillance on US citizens and that it then uses the data   
   it collects to track dissidents, surveil journalists, recruit   
   intelligence operatives, develop spies and blackmail assets. TikTok’s   
   defense is that the US is violating its free speech and first amendment   
   which is why the case made it all the way to the Supreme court. What is   
   TikTok’s speech here? Good question. The algorithm is the speech. Not   
   the content of users, not the content of TikTok itself – it’s the   
   algorithm, the code, the bunch of letters, numbers and special   
   characters that a computer can read, is literally TikTok’s speech. But   
   let’s leave all the fun and giggles aside for a moment to really look   
   what the government is actually saying about TikTok here. Because   
   government employees in the US and many allied countries are already   
   banned from using TikTok on their phones. The message that this is   
   saying is far more profound than you would think if you didn’t know the   
   implications. What all of these government bans are assuming is that the   
   TikTok app is potentially malicious. Meaning – it’s actually malware,   
   that it’s a virus designed to infect your phone. But on a modern mobile   
   operating system, this is no easy task. If TikTok were indeed a piece of   
   malware, it would have to bypass the entire mobile security model. On   
   both Android and iOS, provided they are up-to-date with security   
   patches, TikTok would have to escape the application sandbox – the   
   guardrails that prevent every app on your phone from accessing data   
   outside the app itself. This is something that both iOS and Android   
   enforce at the kernel, the very core of the system. Which means TikTok   
   would need chains of multiple vulnerabilities to exploit each and every   
   safeguard put in place by multi-billion-dollar security research by   
   Apple and Google and thousands of open source cybersecurity researchers   
   all around the world. And even then, every new update and reboot of a   
   phone would likely erase TikTok’s infiltration, so they would have to do   
   that whole exploit chain again and somehow gain persistent access on   
   people’s phones. And all of that would have to have happened without   
   anyone noticing that something’s off. Which on a scale of millions of   
   simultaneous targets is virtually impossible to achieve. If China can   
   make TikTok an actual malicious app that can do all of that, then they   
   can do that to literally every other app on the planet, no matter where   
   it’s based or who owns it.   
      
   So here is a solution: a nationwide ban on all personal data collection   
   and retention beyond the needs of a service delivery. If there is no   
   personal data stored by the big tech, then there is no point hacking   
   them. Most private data is no data. That would also stop all the   
   allegations of developing spies and blackmailing assets and recruiting   
   sympathizers and all that jazz. Not just on TikTok but on all social   
   media platforms across the board.   
      
   SOURCES [references in the transcript]   
      
   [0] youtube.com/watch?v=CbIL9EvDykQ&t=0s   
   [1] eff.org/deeplinks/2015/04/remembering-case-established-code-speech   
   [2] pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/is-code-free-speech   
   [3] eff.org/cases/bernstein-v-us-dept-justice   
   [4] npr.org/2025/01/10/nx-s1-5254236/tiktok-supreme-court-what-to-know   
   [5] wsj.com/politics/policy/jeff-yass-tiktok-bytedance-ban-congress-15a41ec4   
   [6] nytimes.com/2024/12/28/us/politics/trump-tik-tok-ban.html   
   [7] npr.org/2025/01/18/nx-s1-5266146/tiktok-offline-supreme-court-ban   
   [8] npr.org/2025/01/19/nx-s1-5267568/tiktok-back-online   
   [9] bbc.com/news/articles/clyng762q4eo   
   [10] washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/13/tiktok-ban-countries-restrictions   
   [11] nytimes.com/live/2025/01/10/us/tiktok-ban-supreme-court#tik   
   ok-is-facing-legal-backlash-around-the-world   
   [12] nytimes.com/article/tiktok-ban.html   
      
      
   Happy Hacking   
   ReK2   
      
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