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   From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com   
      
   In article ,   
    RVG  wrote:   
      
   > Only those called "réfractaire" who would join the royalists in the   
   > Western regions (Vendée, Brittany, parts of Normandy). The French clergy   
      
   > war in 1917. John of Kronstadt for example might have been a good   
   > priest, but a terribly reactionary advisor who inflamed the workers and   
   > the sailors of Kronstadt who might otherwise have supported a socialist   
   > reform (Menshevik) to turn Russia into a modern constitutional monarchy   
      
   So it is reasonable to murder political opponents. Does that extend to   
   political   
   opponents of all regimes, such as Martin Luther opposing the Roman church, or   
   does it only apply to people opposing those regime you have approved?   
      
   > was asked to accept the general idea of the Supreme Being so as to   
   > reconcile Catholics, Protestants and Jews who, for the first time in the   
   > Christian history, had been granted citizenship.   
      
   Freedom includes the freedom to think for myself, to agree or disagree with   
   others as I see fit. What general ideas are you demanding that I accept to   
   create your Society of Reason? Will you kill me if I refuse?   
      
   > > and then anyone else that was too reasonable for the passions of the   
   > > day. That republic decayed into anarchy until Napoleon took over.   
   > >   
   >   
   > Not really: it was rather the risks of war from the surrounding   
   > monarchies, especially Austria after the execution of Marie-Antoinette.   
      
   Given how you are willing to kill to create your Society of Reason, I can   
   understand why you accept the Reign of Terror.   
      
   > Religions were never threatened: they are the threat to public sanity   
   > when they go political like in Serbia and Russia.   
      
   The Fifth Republic is not threatenning Jews and Christians. Moslems might think   
   otherwise.   
      
   > Actually Stalin put an end to religious persecutions in 1942 because   
      
   So he got right on it as soon as he took over. Do contain your disappointment   
   he   
   switched from the few surviving priests to doctors.   
      
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