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   Message 155,550 of 157,361   
   gordonz to Joe Cooper   
   Re: This Lesbian's Daughter Has Had Enou   
   20 Oct 14 20:20:01   
   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.atheism, alt.california   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: gordonz@dont-email.me   
      
   In article    
   Joe Cooper  wrote:   
   >   
   > My name is Rivka Edelman, and I am the product of same-sex parenting.   
   >   
   > Recently I published an essay on Public Discourse about the ruthless   
   > misogyny that pervades LBGT culture.  I pointed out it that it can and   
   > will victimize women and children with impunity and then, in America’s   
   > narcissistic fugue, get hailed as brave and heroic.   
   >   
   > Since my essay was published, there have been hundreds, maybe thousands,   
   > of posts calling me a liar or trying to shame, discredit, intimidate, and   
   > threaten me.  Read this for details.  People I do not know have gone   
   > directly after my family and my job.  They have posted information, mis-   
   > information, accusations, and threats against me.  A vicious abusive   
   > “activist” well-known for his unhinged misogynistic cyber-stalking and   
   > violent threats, Scott Rose, sent blast e-mails to the university where I   
   > teach, describing himself as a “human right activist and an investigative   
   > journalist.”   
   >   
   > Scott Rose has made threats of violence against Ryan T. Anderson, the   
   > editor who published my piece on October 2, 2014:   
   >   
   > [IMAGE]   
   >   
   > "The only good anti-LGBT bigot is a dead anti-LGBT bigot."   
   >   
   > And menacing threats against me:   
   >   
   > [IMAGE]   
   >   
   > As with other adults who have come forward to criticize their childhood   
   > with gay parents, I am framed as a bigot or a liar or in some other way   
   > “unreliable.”  In this flip-flop, a children’s rights activist and   
   > feminist is called “anti-gay” and a “bigot.”   
   >   
   > Jeremy Hooper, Mr. Rose, and a gang of the allies who congregate and   
   > exchange information on Hooper’s blog, “Good As You,” are concerned about   
   > an amicus curiae brief I wrote in the Texas case regarding same-sex   
   > marriage (Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals).  Along with three other   
   > adults who were raised by same-sex couples, I came forward to push back   
   > against the assertion that children have no disadvantages when raised by   
   > same-sex couples.  Our arguments are not so easy to dismiss.   
   >   
   > On Jeremy Hooper’s blog, activists have dug through all my past to make   
   > it public.  They have also discussed contacting my ex-husband to get him   
   > to lie about me for them.   
   >   
   > [IMAGE]   
   >   
   > The Texas case is still pending.  To date, the voices of adult children   
   > of the LBGT community have been stifled, but by some miracle four briefs   
   > were accepted in Texas against the objections of the pro-gay lobby side,   
   > which invoked procedural technicalities to try to get the four briefs   
   > thrown out.  Three of the four amici curiae have published commentary on   
   > same-sex parenting here.   
   >   
   > Once “activists” connected my Public Discourse piece of October 2, to the   
   > Texas brief, they went full throttle.  Jeremy Hooper, the blogger at Good   
   > as You, uses his blog as a platform to harass, bully, and silence with   
   > impunity.  Hooper published comments from his readers and thereby shared   
   > our home address and my daughter’s private information.  They contacted   
   > other family members looking for information.  They are not picky; true   
   > or made up assertions work for them equally.   
   >   
   > To my ex husband, Rose wrote:   
   >   
   >     	We can conclude with reasonable certainty that significant   
   >     	details of her young life were left out of her brief[.]   
   >   
   > Mr. Rose wants my ex-husband to fill in the blanks.  He was told never to   
   > contact my ex again.  He has harassed me with the e-mail version of   
   > drunken dialing.  And as the outrage against Mr. Hooper grows wider, he   
   > says he has no control over the comments.  He says he never even met   
   > Rose.  He cites law for polish.  Hooper is careful and deliberate to say   
   > that sometimes he does not agree with Rose’s tactics.   
   >   
   > I do not believe Mr. Hooper.  He indeed allows commenters to leave   
   > violent threats against me.  Under Hooper’s editorial review, my work   
   > information, along with my child’s name and people’s addresses,   
   > circulated freely.   
   >   
   > Here Mr. Rose, human rights activist (is that a day job?), threatened my   
   > career with much bravado:   
   >   
   > [Scott Rose]   
   >   
   > She thought she was going to get away with demonizing gay people behind   
   > pseudonyms “Ryvka Edelman” … et cetera, but my message to the gay-bashing   
   > bigot is YOU’LL NEVER EAT LUNCH IN THIS TOWN AGAIN.   
   >   
   > She can forget that one.   
   >   
   > And now that editors and English Department Chairs know that [Rivka   
   > Edelman] is a vicious anti-LGBT bigot, they have more information for   
   > their publishing and hiring decisions.   
   >   
   > P.S. to Rivka – Rots a Ruck getting your work published in any non-   
   > religious, non-bigot publication, now that the world knows that [Rivka]   
   > is a malicious, lying, anti-LGBT bigot.   
   >   
   > [/Scott Rose]   
   >   
   > The police have his name now.   
   >   
   > Perhaps they see us, the adult children of gay homes, as a threat, so we   
   > are attacked and our families threatened.  They posted on Craigslist   
   > looking for information about me.   
   >   
   > [IMAGE]   
   >   
   > Good God.  Maybe I’m on Grindr, too.   
   >   
   > Next they deploy “activist” “Straight Grandmother.”  She is the one who   
   > floats the idea of contacting my ex in the first place.   
   >   
   > She states in an e-mail to my ex-husband:   
   >   
   >      	... Her Amicus Brief to our Federal Court Judges in the 5th Circuit   
   > Court of Appeals ... The only thing they have going is their personal   
   > narrative, which makes it very difficult to discredit ... how much if   
   > their personal narrative is made up just to further their Hate Agenda.   
   > The only way we have to discern the truth is to delve into their personal   
   > narrative.   
   >   
   > They savage, bully, and threaten adults who grew up with gay parents in   
   > order to force a false narrative of happiness on them.  More Orwellian   
   > logic.   
   >   
   > Straight Grandmother goes on explaining the ins and outs:   
   >   
   >     	It invades people's personal privacy. But then on the other hand,   
   > they are the ones themselves who are offering up their personal lives as   
   > reasons to deny gays Civil Rights. See how this puts gay rights advocates   
   > between a rock and a hard place? They kind of force us to do something   
   > distasteful, but if we don't then their lies stand.   
   >   
   > They admit a pattern to invade people’s privacy – the new McCarthyism.   
   >   
   > SGM says:   
   >   
   >     	This is why I am contacting you and what I would like   
   >     	to know about XXXX, well specifically XXXX's mother ...   
   >     	if you are able to get an actual affirmation or   
   >     	rejection from the brother[.]   
   >   
   > Here they are looking for more family.  I can’t help but feel that   
   > whatever organization pays these men should be investigated.   
   >   
   > The writer continues:   
   >   
   >     	I don't know if you will provide the true answer to my question or   
      
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