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|    Kenneth M. Lin to All    |
|    Re: Marvel Comics to Abandon Social Just    |
|    17 Feb 17 16:59:05    |
      XPost: rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe       From: kenmlin@aol.com              I don't like "realism" in comics because the whole point of putting on       flashy costumes is defeated.              Also, if this is real world, why are all females super hot and there are no       plain-looking female heroes?              I like it when Superman and Batman wore their underwears outside.              "Ubiquitous" wrote in message news:o7t03f$jh3$3@dont-email.me...                     For a lot of comics fans, Marvel just isn't what it used to be.       While the comic line that gave us Thor, Captain America, The Hulk,       and the X-Men has often been tinged with a bit of politics -- for       example, discrimination against mutants is common in the Marvel       universe -- recent comics from the company have been overwhelmingly       political, and always politically left.              Many fans have been less than appreciative. Luckily, it now seems       those days are over:              Of late this kind of storytelling has become more       pronounced, probably kicked off with the likes of The       Authority, Ultimates and Civil War, with more recent       stories in comics such a s Captain America, The Champions       and Ms. Marvel wearing their politics firmly on their       spandex sleeves.              There has also been reaction from some fan communities and       retailers to these kind of stories as having no place in       superhero comics, despite all the many examples that have       preceded it. Maybe it’s a little more obvious now? Maybe       everyone is interpreting everything politically? Maybe fans       wish for a time when they didn’t realise their superhero       comics had political elements?              Either way, Marvel Comics has been a focal point for this       kind of discussion. And last week’s Marvel creative summit       I am told by well connected sources who have proved       themselves in that past there was more of a focus on what       DC Comics internally called “meat and potatoes” comics that       preceded their doubling down on the popular characters and       bringing back old favourite takes with DC Rebirth.              I am told, as Marvel brings back the X-Men line with a bang,       to expect a return to more of a status quo for titles such       as Thor, Iron Man, Hulk and more. A more familiar looking       Marvel Universe by the autumn -- although, just as with       Captain America, as classic-look-characters return, expect       new characters to keep a number of their books.                     The truth is, readers don't like to be lectured to.              If you agree with the message in these comics, then you may not take       any issue with what you're seeing lately from Marvel. However, for       readers who are either neutral on these issues or disagree with the       message, the comics portray _them_ as the enemy. People don't want       to spend their hard-earned money to be told how awful they are.              Meanwhile, sales of comics are nosediving.                     With a renewed focus on just telling good stories, Marvel can now       seek to regain valuable market share from DC. Great storytelling       appeals to conservatives, liberals, and all points in between.              It seems Marvel remembered that before getting run out of business.                     --       I would rather listen to a herd of cats trying to climb a chalkboard       than the Left sore losers polluting the Grammys.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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