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   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   On 5/29/2020 11:47 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:   
   > New debt and rent ought not be subject to such forbearance.   
   >   
   >   
   > Every man, woman, and child, also deserve, desire, and demand $1,250 per   
   month   
   > during COVID, and for one year after COVID is over.   
   >   
   > The above is necessary that the American people, and the U.S. economy   
   survive.   
   >   
   > Dependents ought to get their payments directly, akin to child support.   
   >   
   > This will be $5 Trillion into the National Debt, yearly.  This does not   
   matter.  A   
   > Fiscal Expansion is in order.  When Congress sells the Bonds to spend, it   
   would be   
   > effecting a countering equal monetary contraction.  But the Fed will buy the   
   > bonds, and lend to Congress, keeping the interest rate low.  The other side   
   of an   
   > expansion (fiscal or monetary), is inflation, which is not the   
   problem/concern   
   > right now.  An economic boom, and coincident inflation of the Consumer Price   
   Index   
   > and Stock Market (inflation of Price to Book Values), is not our concern   
   right now.   
   >   
   > This ought merely be an "Economic Pause," and not become a Great   
   Depression.  It's   
   > not going to be a Recession.  It's going to be one of the other two.  We   
   want an   
   > Economic Pause.  We don't want a Great Depression.   
   >   
   > A clear and present danger is obvious.  COVID has claimed 100,000 lives in 2   
   > months.  This is annualized to 600,000 deaths per year, if not more.  This   
   is more   
   > than the 400,000 who die to cigarettes yearly.   
   >   
   > A clear and present danger is obvious.  Congress cannot buy the Stealth   
   Bomber,   
   > and let they U.S. economy collapse and the American people loose their homes   
   and   
   > livelihoods, and say it has any business protecting America.   
   >   
   > COVID may last several more months, or persist into perpetuity until a   
   vaccine or   
   > cure comes to be.  This is likely to be 1-2 years.  For analysis, it all   
   depends   
   > on how many days it takes to recover and stop being contagious.  The   
   quarantine   
   > either reduces the number of cases daily, if the daily infection rate is   
   lower   
   > than the daily recovery rate, or it holds them steady, or merely tempers the   
   > spread if the daily infection rate is higher than the daily recovery rate.    
   The   
   > U.S. total daily infection rate is about 2% (% New Cases of Active Cases =   
   20,000   
   > new cases daily on 1,000,000 active cases).  Before the quarantine the daily   
   > infection rate was 25%.  If it takes 30 days to recover, the recovery rate is   
   > 100/30 = 3.33%.  Texas' infection rate is currently about 6%.  The number of   
   cases   
   > will only grow.  New York's infection rate is currently about .60%, the   
   disease   
   > will be beat in several or many months.  And California, and the U.S. as a   
   whole's   
   > infection rate are both currently about 2%, - closer to holding the total   
   number   
   > of Active Cases steady, but ultimately declining.  If it takes 60 days to   
   recover,   
   > the daily recovery rate is 100/60 = 1.67%, and we're more screwed.  If it   
   takes 15   
   > days to recover, the daily recovery rate is 100/15 = 6.67%, and even Texas   
   may   
   > prevail.  We haven't seen so many reported recoveries.  Greenland was 100%   
   clean   
   > of the virus as 11 cases recovered 6 weeks ago.  On Saturday, May 23rd   
   Greenland   
   > just got one new case.  Del Norte County, California's most North West   
   County had   
   > all 4 cases recovered one week ago, and in the last week had 15 new cases.   
   >   
   > Let me remind everyone, that without the quarantine but everyone just doing   
   their   
   > normal activities, the Daily New Infection Rate was 25%.  At 25%, in three   
   days   
   > the total number of cases doubles.  In seven days it quintuples.  In 10 days   
   it is   
   > times 10.  In 20 days, times 100, in 30 days times 1,000, and in two months   
   times   
   > 1,000,000, or terminal.  333 cases becomes 333,000,000 cases in 60 days at a   
   25%   
   > daily infection rate, and this is what was going on before the Quarantine.    
   We   
   > don't want to return to anything like this and overwhelm our hospitals.    
   Even with   
   > more personal protective equipment, testing, and awareness, an increase to   
   10%-15%   
   > with States supposedly opening would be disastrous.  It's time for Congress   
   to   
   > step in.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
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