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|    Intelligent Party to Intelligent Party    |
|    Re: Florida Man Daniel Baker Found Guilt    |
|    20 Nov 21 01:37:49    |
      XPost: soc.culture.usa, alt.politics.usa, talk.politics.theory       XPost: soc.rights.human, alt.politics.usa.misc       From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com              On 11/20/2021 1:21 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:       > On 11/20/2021 12:53 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:       >> On 11/20/2021 12:43 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:       >>> On 11/19/2021 10:10 PM, Anthony Soprano wrote:       >>>> MIAMI.CBSLOCAL.COM       >>>> Florida Man Daniel Baker Found Guilty In State Capitol Plot       >>>> CBSMiami.com Team       >>>>       >>>> TALLAHASSEE (CBSMiami/NSF) – A Tallahassee man who was arrested in       >>>> January for plotting to violently confront would-be protesters at the       >>>> Florida Capitol was found guilty Thursday on federal charges.       >>>>       >>>> Daniel Baker, who made online posts about confronting supporters of       >>>> former President Donald Trump during an expected protest at the state       >>>> Capitol, was convicted on two counts of sending, in interstate       >>>> commerce, a true threat to kidnap or injure.       >>>>       >>>> READ MORE: Bad Weather Can Mean Bad News For Miami Water & Sewer       >>>>       >>>> During a trial that lasted about two and a half days, Baker's defense       >>>> argued that the series of social media posts that led to his arrest       >>>> were "jokes." Federal prosecutors set out to prove that "inflammatory       >>>> rhetoric" Baker posted online constituted a true threat.       >>>>       >>>> Ultimately, the 12-person jury returned a guilty verdict after roughly       >>>> four hours of deliberation.       >>>>       >>>> The case centered largely on the content of a flyer that Baker posted       >>>> to Facebook and other social media sites in January, issuing a "call       >>>> to arms" for others to join him and "encircle terrorists who attack       >>>> the Capitol" on President Joe Biden's inauguration day.       >>>>       >>>> The FBI had been aware of Baker's social media threats since October,       >>>> according to court documents.       >>>>       >>>> The posts were made amid heightened security at the state Capitol,       >>>> with Gov. Ron DeSantis mobilizing the Florida National Guard to assist       >>>> state and local law enforcement. But the anticipated protest by Trump       >>>> supporters never materialized.       >>>>       >>>> Repeatedly describing himself as a "leftist," Baker testified this       >>>> week that he was attempting to "inspire the community to defend       >>>> itself, to defend the (Florida) Capitol" and the country after Trump       >>>> supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.       >>>>       >>>> "This is an armed COUP and can only be stopped by an armed community!       >>>> If you're afraid to die fighting the enemy, stay in bed and live," the       >>>> flyer said in part.       >>>>       >>>> Randolph Murrell, Baker's public defender, described Baker's posts as       >>>> reckless and careless but argued that Baker thought what he was doing       >>>> was legal and that he wasn't being serious.       >>>>       >>>> "A lot of these were jokes, a lot of these were clearly over the top,"       >>>> Murrell said in his closing argument.       >>>>       >>>> Baker, when questioned by Murrell while testifying, said his posts       >>>> were "almost exclusively jokes," aimed at depicting an "ironic parody       >>>> of a left-wing caricature."       >>>>       >>>> Baker testified that his posts were not aimed at threatening potential       >>>> right-wing protesters because his Facebook profile was set to private       >>>> and he was only communicating with other "leftists" who he had       >>>> "screened."       >>>>       >>>> READ MORE: University Of Miami Law Students Help Exonerate Wrongfully       >>>> Convicted Florida Man       >>>>       >>>> The defense also attempted to downplay prosecutors' argument that       >>>> Baker was actively recruiting people to join him in taking up arms       >>>> against would-be protesters,       >>>>       >>>> But the prosecution countered by arguing that a publicly viewable       >>>> Facebook event that Baker created, titled "DEFEND TALLAHASSEE," could       >>>> reasonably be seen as a threat.       >>       >>       >> How is it we don't have a right to self-defense? This shit is so stupid!       >>       >>       >>>> Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Kunz pointed to Baker's prior military       >>>> training and knowledge of weapons in arguing that Baker "had a means       >>>> to carry out his threats."       >>>>       >>>> Baker served in the military for roughly a year until 2007, before       >>>> receiving an "other-than-honorable" discharge, according to       >>>> information published by the U.S. Attorney's Office in January. After       >>>> being discharged, Baker joined a group fighting in Syria against ISIS       >>>> and the Turkish government.       >>>>       >>>> Prosecutors displayed social-media messages sent by Baker, in which he       >>>> claimed to have killed 16 people during his time fighting in Syria.       >>>>       >>>> "I made that up. I was just talking big," Baker said when questioned       >>>> about the claim.       >>>>       >>>> Murrell repeatedly cited Baker's small stature, at 5 feet, 3 inches       >>>> tall and about 130 pounds, saying Baker suffered bullying growing up       >>>> and that he "talks tough to offset his size disadvantage."       >>>>       >>>> But Assistant U.S. Attorney Lazaro Fields said Baker "knew exactly       >>>> what he was doing because he knew his capabilities."       >>>>       >>>> Baker appeared to show no emotion following the guilty verdict       >>>> Thursday. Murrell and friends of Baker who testified in his defense       >>>> declined to comment on the verdict outside of the federal courthouse.       >>>>       >>>> U.S. District Judge Allen Winsor set a sentencing hearing for Baker on       >>>> Aug. 16. Court officials said in January that Baker faced a maximum of       >>>> five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.       >>>>       >>>> When asked Thursday what penalty Baker could face following the trial,       >>>> Murrell said he hadn't "figured that out yet."       >>>>       >>>> MORE NEWS: Online Threats Continue At South Florida Schools, Campaign       >>>> Hopes To Make Students Think Twice Before Posting       >>>>       >>>> Copyright 2021 CBS Local Media. All rights reserved. This material may       >>>> not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The News       >>>> Service of Florida's Ryan Dailey contributed to this report.)       >>>       >>>       >>> If you rape my daughter I'll kill you. Threatening to defend people       against crime       >>> is not crime. It's freedom of speech, and the people persecuting this man       are       >>> guilty for perpetration under color of law. The government should walk       softly and       >>> carry a big stick. It should not get away with such kinds of evil. The       charges       >>> are crime in my mind, and always will be. The government's punishments       will       >>> convince of nothing but that it is more guilty and criminal. Everything       he said       >>> is semantics and you don't know what he said.       >>>       >>> Advocating crime is 100% legal if it is not imminent lawless action under       the              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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