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   Message 156,999 of 157,374   
   Josh Rosenbluth to David Hartung   
   Re: "LGB Without The T": Why Some Are Sa   
   11 Apr 23 18:29:45   
   
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   From: noway@nowhere.com   
      
   On 4/11/2023 11:45 AM, David Hartung wrote:   
   > On 4/11/23 13:38, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >> On 4/11/2023 6:25 AM, David Hartung wrote:   
   >>> On 4/10/23 20:05, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>>> The LGBTQ community appears to be on the brink of a schism as   
   >>>> trans-rights   
   >>>> activists push harder and harder to blur the lines defining sex and   
   >>>> single-   
   >>>> sex spaces — often disproportionately encroaching on spaces meant to be   
   >>>> limited to only women.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There are certainly some cases involving trans men, particularly   
   >>>> with regard   
   >>>> to alleged discrimination in health care when a woman who identifies   
   >>>> as a man   
   >>>> goes through pregnancy, but the vast majority of the activism comes   
   >>>> from   
   >>>> trans-identifying men demanding access to spaces that are   
   >>>> traditionally for   
   >>>> females only.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The advocacy itself stretches across many fronts — from women’s   
   >>>> sports to   
   >>>> women’s shelters to women’s prisons, hitting up every rest stop   
   >>>> restroom in   
   >>>> between — and has forced its way onto college campuses, into high   
   >>>> schools and   
   >>>> middle schools, and even into elementary schools.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The stated goal is equality or equal access, but the end result is   
   >>>> that a   
   >>>> growing number of titles and achievements that were previously only   
   >>>> open to   
   >>>> women are being quickly taken up by biological males:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> • A 6’1? fully intact biological male — who was allowed to walk   
   >>>> freely among   
   >>>>    biological women as they stripped and changed into their bathing   
   >>>> suits — is   
   >>>>    now an NCAA swimming champion.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> • A female cyclist, after years and years of difficult training,   
   >>>> quit the   
   >>>>    sport she loved because she was being forced into unfair   
   >>>> competition with   
   >>>>    biological males.   
   >>   
   >> These borderline issues are to trans rights what partial-birth   
   >> abortions to abortions rights: wedges designed to split trans rights   
   >> supporters. The real goal is to fully delegitimize trans people.   
   >>   
   >>>> • A male assistant secretary of Health and Human Services earned the   
   >>>>    distinction of “Woman of the Year.”   
   >>   
   >> This one isn't even a borderline issue. She can be Woman of the Year   
   >> every bit as much as Amy Schneider is the all time female Jeopardy   
   >> champion.   
   >   
   > A human who has XY chromosomes is not, and can never be a woman.   
      
   That's long on conclusion, and short on argument. But again, thanks for   
   confirming what your real goal is (and that all of this stuff about   
   athletes is a side show).   
      
   >>> The fact that our culture increasingly claims that men can become   
   >>> women and vice versa, and that also refuses to recognize the real   
   >>> differences between men and women, is clear evidence of societal decay.   
   >>   
   >> David's reply confirms what I wrote above about the real goal.   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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