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|    No redress, no suit: Fourth Circuit send    |
|    18 Aug 25 04:34:02    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns       XPost: alt.society.liberalism, law.court.federal       From: yourdime@outlook.com              RICHMOND, Va. (CN) — A Fourth Circuit panel on Tuesday said a North       Carolina protester, who argued his stayed conviction should not block his       First Amendment case against the sheriff who arrested him, should not have       sought declaratory relief from the appeals court.              Maurice Wells Jr. was found guilty of two misdemeanor offenses — failure       to disperse and disorderly conduct — in a North Carolina district court       after a 2020 Black Lives Matter protest. He has appealed to the county’s       superior court, where his prior conviction is stayed and he is entitled to       an entirely new trial, but a new trial has yet to occur.              In 2023, Wells filed suit against Alamance County Sheriff Terry Johnson,       claiming Johnson arrested him over his political views and for using       profanity, which he claims is protected speech.              Wells argued that his stayed conviction means it should not be considered       probable cause for his arrest and that his First Amendment case should be       allowed to continue. Wells claimed Johnson selectively arrested him after       he failed to leave a park but did not arrest counterprotesters who also       did not cooperate with instructions to leave.              But a Fourth Circuit panel decided Wells lacks standing to seek a       declaratory judgment before an appellate court.              “Maurice Wells poses a tricky question,” U.S. Circuit Judge Julius       Richardson said in the 27-page opinion. “He got arrested at a protest in       2020 and was convicted of multiple charges in state court. He appealed the       conviction. And now, while the appeal remains pending, he sues to       challenge the arrest — claiming that it was retaliation for his speech.       His question for us is whether, in this situation, the state-court       conviction precludes a federal-court finding that the arrest violated his       rights."              But the federal courts are intended to “redress injuries,” or provide       remedy or compensation, the Donald Trump appointee said, and Wells is       seeking a judgment declaring his arrest unconstitutional without saying       how it would resolve his arrest or help him in other ways, including       warding off future arrest or prosecution.              The panel vacated the lower court’s decision that originally dismissed       Wells’ case, finding that the federal courts lack jurisdiction. It       remanded the case and ordered it back to state court.              Both parties now agree the case doesn’t belong in federal court.              “Wells’ arrest is a cognizable injury, and Johnson caused it. His       prosecution is cognizable, too, assuming that Wells could trace it to       Johnson. But to get a declaration that Johnson violated his First       Amendment rights, Wells needs something more,” Richardson said. “He must       show that ‘the remedy he sought ... can redress the constitutional       violation that [he] alleges occurred.’”              But Richardson said Wells cannot get constitutionally adequate redress       through his request.              Wells could get redress from prosecution by getting a declaration to fend       off being prosecuted in the future. However, Wells has “sued the wrong       defendant,” Richardson said, because it is North Carolina, not Johnson or       Alamance County, that is prosecuting him and would prosecute him again in       the future.              Wells could likewise not get relief through preventing a future arrest       over protesting because it would be an “offensive, rather than defensive,       use of a declaratory judgment,” and Wells has not given the court reason       to believe he will protest again in the same place or be arrested again by       Johnson.              Richardson wrote that the redress also cannot address the past injury —       Wells’ 2020 arrest — as declaratory judgment is “a preclusive weapon that       either deters litigation or helps win it.” Plaintiffs who have suffered       injury need compensation, and a declaratory judgment is not compensatory,       he said.              “Without some unusual situation where the plaintiff can show that he needs       the preclusive effect of a declaration even though the injury he complains       of has already occurred, a declaration aimed into the past would be only       hortatory — a judicial announcement that a past event broke the law — and       therefore provide no redress,” Richardson said.              While the Fourth Circuit has never ruled out the possibility that a       plaintiff can redress a past injury by seeking a declaration alone, the       court has “serious doubts that this works,” Richardson said, and the       plaintiff would still need to show the preclusion would help redress his       injury in future litigation.              But Wells filed because North Carolina’s statute of limitations had almost       run out, and as it has expired, he won’t be able to bring a new action,       and there wouldn’t be a preclusive effect from a declaratory judgment, he       added. Wells had already waited nearly four years for his superior court       case to be heard before he filed his First Amendment case.              Johnson wanted the lower court’s decision upheld, saying Wells’       convictions invalidate his lawsuit, even if the conviction is later       vacated. The fact that Wells was convicted in one of the state’s district       courts shows he had probable cause to arrest him, he said. Wells wanted       the order reversed and the case remanded so it could continue.              Wells’ claims will likely continue in a superior court in North Carolina.              Counsel for Wells declined to comment on the panel's decision. Johnson and       his attorney did not reply to a request for comment.              U.S. Circuit Court Judge Paul Niemeyer, a George H.W. Bush appointee, and       Senior U.S. Circuit Court Judge Henry Floyd, a Barack Obama appointee,       also served on the panel and joined Richardson’s opinion.              https://www.courthousenews.com/no-redress-no-suit-fourth-circuit-sends-       blm-protester-packing/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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