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   From: andrew.321.remov@usa.net   
      
   "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:3eqvajdgbfme6jsmiciqnc5g   
   i1k0i2i0j@4ax.com...   
   > Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>Vincent Maycock wrote:   
   >>> "Andrew" wrote:   
   >>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:   
   >>>>> "Andrew" wrote:   
   >>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote:   
   >>>>>>> "Brother Desmond (Desi) Edward Coughlan" wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Pray in the Spirit at all times and on every occasion. Stay alert   
   >>>>>>>> and be persistent in your prayers for all believers everywhere.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  If prayers worked why do Christians   
   >>>>>>> get sick and die at the same rste as the   
   >>>>>>> rest of us?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Since the Fall we~all~die.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So?  The question was "why do we get sick and die?"   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Since the Bible has specifically explained all of that   
   >>>>to us, the question here is.."Why are you so ignorant   
   >>>>of these basic issues?" You really have - no excuse.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm aware of the Biblical explanation, and I find it to be   
   >>> insufficient.  For example, why should *we* have to suffer for   
   >>> something that Adam and Eve did?  (And here I'm talking about sickness   
   >>> and death that isn't our fault, so you can't say "sin" is what's   
   >>> causing it to happen to us.)   
   >>   
   >>    Exactly. The Bible says people are   
   >>NOT to be punished for the sins of   
   >>othere then it claims just the opposite.   
   >>   
   >>The son shall not bear the iniquity of   
   >>the father, neither shall the father   
   >>bear the iniquity of the son: the   
   >>righteousness of the righteous shall   
   >>be upon him, and the wickedness of the   
   >>wicked shall be upon him.   
   >>Ezekiel 18:20   
   >>   
   >>..........vs.........   
   >>   
   >>The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in   
   >>steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and   
   >>transgression, but he will by no means clear   
   >>the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the   
   >>fathers on the children, to the third and the   
   >>fourth generation.   
   >>Numbers 14:18   
   >   
   > LOL!  What ridiculousness goes on in that Bible of theirs.  I enjoy   
   > your counter-quotes to that Brother Desmond guy.   
      
   "People who do not have God's Spirit do not accept   
    the things that come from his Spirit. They think these   
    things are foolish. They cannot understand them,   
    because they can only be understood with the Spirit's   
    help."   
                            1 Corinthians 2:14   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)