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   In article <10e836b$289f0$2@dont-email.me>, bax02   
   _spamblock@baxcode.com says...   
   >   
   > Attila wrote in   
   > news:mlgegk9ubb6l4g9mki84acifn0mqhbf05h@4ax.com:   
   >   
   > > On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 03:38:37 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > > in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > > <10e6jns$1pnhe$5@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>Attila wrote in   
   > >>news:kh9cgkh4sge10j5ihk06qsqfvmb4ug4f92@4ax.com:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 14:53:55 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>> <10e56u2$1atvh$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>Attila wrote in   
   > >>>>news:1ejbgkpuge78rpoqgdcnc1g8v47p6q6m50@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:18:48 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>> <10dvvko$3omda$6@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude    
   > >>>>>>wrote in news:5oh6gklv9amsu9c2vdlb0d1l55vrb8ske7   
   > >>>>>>@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> [Default] Webbster typed:   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude @gmail.com>   
   > >>>>>>wrote   
   > >>>>>>>>in   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>   
   > news:qm95gkpeqv5lrhbhsnauitc0kpt2ejl8oi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cock   
   > >>>>>>su ck   
   > >>>>>>>>ing.dwarf.com:   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> [Default] Webbster typed:   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>Shocking footage show masked ICE agents brutally 'break   
   > >>>>>>>>>>67-year-old   
   > >>>>>>US   
   > >>>>>>>>>>citizen's ribs'   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>By Athena Dawson,   
   > >>>>>>>>>>1 hours ago   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>Video captured the moment ICE agents pulled a 67-year-old man   
   > >>>>>>>>>>from   
   > >>>>>>his   
   > >>>>>>>>>>car and pinned him to the ground during an immigration   
   > >>>>>>>>>>enforcement operation in Chicago.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> Excellent! Maybe next time he'll think twice about interfering   
   > >>>>>>>>> with Federal agents rounding up and deporting illegal aliens.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>He wasn't interferring.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Then they wouldn't have bothered him.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>Prove that he was interferring.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Prove he wasn't.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>It's YOUR claim to prove.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> He was doing something to cause his being arrested.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>And that woman that was talking to two ICE in the middle of the   
   > >>>>>>street when a third walked up and sprayed her directly in her face.   
   > >>>>>>How was she interferring?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> There is talking and the there is "talking". Not enough   
   > >>>>> information.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>I watched the video. She was just talking, not making any agressive   
   > >>>>moves at all.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> You only saw a few seconds. What occurred before the video   
   > >>> was shot?   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > >>It was peaceful residential neighborhood until ICE showed up.   
   > >   
   > > Irrelevant. If there are illegals there the government has   
   > > the right to locate and deport them.   
   > >   
   > >>According to ICE, and you, they were only there to apprehend a violent   
   > >>criminal alien. If they knew who he was, and where to find him, why   
   > >>didn't they arrest him elsewhere? Why did the put children at risk?   
   > >   
   > > They get them wherever they can find them.   
   > >   
   > >>   
   > >>A crowd gathered, why were they angry? And ICE needed to use gas and   
   > >>other crowd control?   
   > >   
   > > If they are in danger from the crowd, yes. Actions such as   
   > > blocking vehicles, throwing rocks and other missiles, and   
   > > making threats all are valid reasons as far as I am   
   > > concerned.   
   > >   
   > > I am not an attorney thus I cannot interpret the law based   
   > > upon any formal training.   
   > >   
   >   
   > You're not answering the questions either. WHY are middle-class residents   
   > of a peaceful neighborhood angry at the presence and activiies of ICE?   
   > After all, if ICE is actually enforcing the law, apprehending violent   
   > criminals, it makes no damn sense for them to be angry.   
   >   
   > And why do they need to break people's ribs who DO agree to follow their   
   > instructions?   
      
   You only see and hear what they want you to see and hear.   
      
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