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   In article <10e9dmv$2l45g$4@dont-email.me>, bax02   
   _spamblock@baxcode.com says...   
   >   
   > Attila  wrote in   
   > news:1otfgk51hhld7o295dps7v5reo7ho5qm52@4ax.com:   
   >   
   > > On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 17:08:27 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > > <10e836b$289f0$2@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>Attila  wrote in   
   > >>news:mlgegk9ubb6l4g9mki84acifn0mqhbf05h@4ax.com:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 03:38:37 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>> <10e6jns$1pnhe$5@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>Attila  wrote in   
   > >>>>news:kh9cgkh4sge10j5ihk06qsqfvmb4ug4f92@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 14:53:55 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>> <10e56u2$1atvh$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>>Attila  wrote in   
   > >>>>>>news:1ejbgkpuge78rpoqgdcnc1g8v47p6q6m50@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:18:48 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>>>> <10dvvko$3omda$6@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>Klaus  Schadenfreude   
   > >>>>>>>> wrote in   
   > >>>>>>>>news:5oh6gklv9amsu9c2vdlb0d1l55vrb8ske7   
   > >>>>>>>>@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com:   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> [Default]  Webbster  typed:   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>Klaus  Schadenfreude  >>@gmail.com>   
   > >>>>>>>>wrote   
   > >>>>>>>>>>in   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>news:qm95gkpeqv5lrhbhsnauitc0kpt2ejl8oi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cock   
   > >>>>>>>>su ck   
   > >>>>>>>>>>ing.dwarf.com:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> [Default]  Webbster  typed:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>Shocking footage show masked ICE agents brutally 'break   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>67-year-old   
   > >>>>>>>>US   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>citizen's ribs'   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>By Athena Dawson,   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>1 hours ago   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>Video captured the moment ICE agents pulled a 67-year-old   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>man from   
   > >>>>>>>>his   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>car and pinned him to the ground during an immigration   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>enforcement operation in Chicago.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Excellent! Maybe next time he'll think twice about   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> interfering with Federal agents rounding up and deporting   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> illegal aliens.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>He wasn't interferring.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> Then they wouldn't have bothered him.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>Prove that he was interferring.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Prove he wasn't.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>It's YOUR claim to prove.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> He was doing something to cause his being arrested.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>And that woman that was talking to two ICE in the middle of the   
   > >>>>>>>>street when a third walked up and sprayed her directly in her   
   > >>>>>>>>face. How was she interferring?   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> There is talking and the there is "talking".  Not enough   
   > >>>>>>> information.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>I watched the video. She was just talking, not making any   
   > >>>>>>agressive moves at all.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> You only saw a few seconds.  What occurred before the video   
   > >>>>> was shot?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>It was  peaceful residential neighborhood until ICE showed up.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Irrelevant.  If there are illegals there the government has   
   > >>> the right to locate and deport them.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>According to ICE, and you, they were only there to apprehend a   
   > >>>>violent criminal alien.  If they knew who he was, and where to find   
   > >>>>him, why didn't they arrest him elsewhere?  Why did the put children   
   > >>>>at risk?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> They get them wherever they can find them.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>A crowd gathered, why were they angry?  And ICE needed to use gas   
   > >>>>and other crowd control?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> If they are in danger from the crowd, yes.  Actions such as   
   > >>> blocking vehicles, throwing rocks and other missiles, and   
   > >>> making threats all are valid reasons as far as I am   
   > >>> concerned.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I am not an attorney thus I cannot interpret the law based   
   > >>> upon any formal training.   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > >>You're not answering the questions either. WHY are middle-class   
   > >>residents of a peaceful neighborhood angry at the presence and   
   > >>activiies of ICE?   
   > >   
   > > Perhaps they have relatives or neighbors that are illegal.   
   > >   
   > >>After all, if ICE is actually enforcing the law, apprehending violent   
   > >>criminals, it makes no damn sense for them to be angry.   
   > >   
   > > Sure it would if it was a relative.   
   > >   
   > >>   
   > >>And why do they need to break people's ribs who DO agree to follow   
   > >>their instructions?   
   > >   
   > > That would depend on their reaction.  I doubt he quietly   
   > > agreed to do as he was told without argument or delay.   
   > >   
   >   
   > So if they don't jump when you say frog, it ok to break their ribs and   
   > cause internal bleeding?!!  Is that how you want Law Enforcement to   
   > operate?!!   
      
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