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   From: bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com   
      
   Skeeter wrote in news:MPG.43721e499527c24898a6c0   
   @usnews.blocknews.net:   
      
   > In article <10e9dmv$2l45g$4@dont-email.me>, bax02   
   > _spamblock@baxcode.com says...   
   >>   
   >> Attila wrote in   
   >> news:1otfgk51hhld7o295dps7v5reo7ho5qm52@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 17:08:27 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >> > in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >> > <10e836b$289f0$2@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >>Attila wrote in   
   >> >>news:mlgegk9ubb6l4g9mki84acifn0mqhbf05h@4ax.com:   
   >> >>   
   >> >>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 03:38:37 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >> >>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >> >>> <10e6jns$1pnhe$5@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>>Attila wrote in   
   >> >>>>news:kh9cgkh4sge10j5ihk06qsqfvmb4ug4f92@4ax.com:   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 14:53:55 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >> >>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >> >>>>> <10e56u2$1atvh$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>Attila wrote in   
   >> >>>>>>news:1ejbgkpuge78rpoqgdcnc1g8v47p6q6m50@4ax.com:   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:18:48 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >> >>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >> >>>>>>> <10dvvko$3omda$6@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude   
   >> >>>>>>>> wrote in   
   >> >>>>>>>>news:5oh6gklv9amsu9c2vdlb0d1l55vrb8ske7   
   >> >>>>>>>>@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com:   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>> [Default] Webbster typed:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude > >>@gmail.com>   
   >> >>>>>>>>wrote   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>in   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>   
   news:qm95gkpeqv5lrhbhsnauitc0kpt2ejl8oi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cock   
   >> >>>>>>>>su ck   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>ing.dwarf.com:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Webbster typed:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Shocking footage show masked ICE agents brutally 'break   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>67-year-old   
   >> >>>>>>>>US   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>citizen's ribs'   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>By Athena Dawson,   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>1 hours ago   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Video captured the moment ICE agents pulled a 67-year-old   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>man from   
   >> >>>>>>>>his   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>car and pinned him to the ground during an immigration   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>enforcement operation in Chicago.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> Excellent! Maybe next time he'll think twice about   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> interfering with Federal agents rounding up and deporting   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> illegal aliens.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>He wasn't interferring.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>> Then they wouldn't have bothered him.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>Prove that he was interferring.   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> Prove he wasn't.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>It's YOUR claim to prove.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> He was doing something to cause his being arrested.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>And that woman that was talking to two ICE in the middle of   
   the   
   >> >>>>>>>>street when a third walked up and sprayed her directly in her   
   >> >>>>>>>>face. How was she interferring?   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> There is talking and the there is "talking". Not enough   
   >> >>>>>>> information.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>I watched the video. She was just talking, not making any   
   >> >>>>>>agressive moves at all.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> You only saw a few seconds. What occurred before the video   
   >> >>>>> was shot?   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>>It was peaceful residential neighborhood until ICE showed up.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Irrelevant. If there are illegals there the government has   
   >> >>> the right to locate and deport them.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>>According to ICE, and you, they were only there to apprehend a   
   >> >>>>violent criminal alien. If they knew who he was, and where to   
   find   
   >> >>>>him, why didn't they arrest him elsewhere? Why did the put   
   children   
   >> >>>>at risk?   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> They get them wherever they can find them.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>>A crowd gathered, why were they angry? And ICE needed to use gas   
   >> >>>>and other crowd control?   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> If they are in danger from the crowd, yes. Actions such as   
   >> >>> blocking vehicles, throwing rocks and other missiles, and   
   >> >>> making threats all are valid reasons as far as I am   
   >> >>> concerned.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> I am not an attorney thus I cannot interpret the law based   
   >> >>> upon any formal training.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>You're not answering the questions either. WHY are middle-class   
   >> >>residents of a peaceful neighborhood angry at the presence and   
   >> >>activiies of ICE?   
   >> >   
   >> > Perhaps they have relatives or neighbors that are illegal.   
   >> >   
   >> >>After all, if ICE is actually enforcing the law, apprehending   
   violent   
   >> >>criminals, it makes no damn sense for them to be angry.   
   >> >   
   >> > Sure it would if it was a relative.   
   >> >   
   >> >>   
   >> >>And why do they need to break people's ribs who DO agree to follow   
   >> >>their instructions?   
   >> >   
   >> > That would depend on their reaction. I doubt he quietly   
   >> > agreed to do as he was told without argument or delay.   
   >> >   
   >>   
   >> So if they don't jump when you say frog, it ok to break their ribs and   
   >> cause internal bleeding?!! Is that how you want Law Enforcement to   
   >> operate?!!   
   >   
   > Never happened.   
   >   
      
   So now you're denying facts!! You say that guy was NOT pulled from his   
   car and he did NOT suffer broken ribs.   
      
      
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