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   From: jfwalby@gmaill.com   
      
   Attila wrote:   
   > On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!   
   >  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Attila wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!   
   >>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Attila wrote:   
   >>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>> <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>       Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the projects.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay him the government   
   20   
   >>>>>> percent of any “cash distributions.”   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       Between now and the end of January 2029, the government can compel   
   >>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the government   
   will be   
   >>>>>> awarded 20 percent ownership of the company, likely making it the single   
   >>>>>> largest shareholder.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA Socialism   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of NY.   
   >>>>> As long as the city survives the experience.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and increasing the   
   >>>> socialist nature is like a pH measure not an inducement to 100%   
   >>>> socialism. Libraries are socialist structures how are they bad?   
   >>>   
   >>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.   
   >>>   
   >>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free   
   >>> stuff socialism promises?  Will you work for nothing to help   
   >>> produce any of it?   
   >>>   
   >>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the   
   >>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out   
   >>> of the tax jurisdiction.  Frequently taking their business   
   >>> with them.   
   >>>   
   >> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax on everybody and   
   >> everybody consumes free resources. There is not 100% tax which means   
   >> there is a long ways to go to pure socialism and you are getting up in   
   >> the air about services that should be available to everyone becoming   
   >> available.   
   >   
   > What you describe is Communism.  "From each according to his   
   > ability, to each according to his need"  Which sounds good   
   > if you are talking about a computer run economy.  Mix in   
   > people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges.  "Some pigs   
   > are more equal than others."   
   >   
   > See the USSR for a textbook example.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to everyone? Do you   
   >> consider some people to be dogs and beneath the system?   
   >   
   > Why should the government be involved in the healthcare   
   > system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks and   
   > the pure food and drug laws are followed?   
   >   
   Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's merit.   
      
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