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   From: jfwalby@gmaill.com   
      
   Attila wrote:   
   > On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!   
   > in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Attila wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!   
   >>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Attila wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!   
   >>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>>>> <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the projects.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay him the   
   government 20   
   >>>>>>>> percent of any “cash distributions.”   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029, the government can   
   compel   
   >>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the government   
   will be   
   >>>>>>>> awarded 20 percent ownership of the company, likely making it the   
   single   
   >>>>>>>> largest shareholder.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA Socialism   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of NY.   
   >>>>>>> As long as the city survives the experience.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and increasing the   
   >>>>>> socialist nature is like a pH measure not an inducement to 100%   
   >>>>>> socialism. Libraries are socialist structures how are they bad?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free   
   >>>>> stuff socialism promises? Will you work for nothing to help   
   >>>>> produce any of it?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the   
   >>>>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out   
   >>>>> of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking their business   
   >>>>> with them.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax on everybody and   
   >>>> everybody consumes free resources. There is not 100% tax which means   
   >>>> there is a long ways to go to pure socialism and you are getting up in   
   >>>> the air about services that should be available to everyone becoming   
   >>>> available.   
   >>>   
   >>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to his   
   >>> ability, to each according to his need" Which sounds good   
   >>> if you are talking about a computer run economy. Mix in   
   >>> people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges. "Some pigs   
   >>> are more equal than others."   
   >>>   
   >>> See the USSR for a textbook example.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to everyone? Do you   
   >>>> consider some people to be dogs and beneath the system?   
   >>>   
   >>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare   
   >>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks and   
   >>> the pure food and drug laws are followed?   
   >>>   
   >> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's merit.   
   >   
   > Why should the government be involved with a person's merit?   
   > And what does that have to do with the subject?   
   >   
   You gonna play stupid like a rock?   
   That's enough from you for awhile.   
      
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