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Attila wrote in
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> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 08:40:59 -0700, %
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> wrote:
>
>>Attila wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay him
>>>>>>>>>>>> the government 20
>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any “cash distributions.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> government can compel
>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the
>>>>>>>>>>>> government will be awarded 20 percent ownership of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> company, likely making it the single largest shareholder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA
>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of NY.
>>>>>>>>>>> As long as the city survives the experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and increasing
>>>>>>>>>> the socialist nature is like a pH measure not an inducement
>>>>>>>>>> to 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist structures how are
>>>>>>>>>> they bad?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free
>>>>>>>>> stuff socialism promises? Will you work for nothing to help
>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the
>>>>>>>>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out
>>>>>>>>> of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking their business
>>>>>>>>> with them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax on
>>>>>>>> everybody and everybody consumes free resources. There is not
>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
>>>>>>>> socialism and you are getting up in the air about services that
>>>>>>>> should be available to everyone becoming available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to his
>>>>>>> ability, to each according to his need" Which sounds good
>>>>>>> if you are talking about a computer run economy. Mix in
>>>>>>> people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges. "Some pigs
>>>>>>> are more equal than others."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
>>>>>>>> everyone? Do you consider some people to be dogs and beneath
>>>>>>>> the system?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks and
>>>>>>> the pure food and drug laws are followed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's merit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's merit?
>>>>> And what does that have to do with the subject?
>>>>>
>>>> Quit being obtuse.
>>>>
>>>> Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.
>>>
>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take
>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else to
>>> give him what he needs or thinks he needs.
>>>
>>in canada it's against the law to not have health care so much so they
>>make you take it and the people pay for it
>
> You left out a word. They make you pay for it. I cannot
> address the Canada situation but I heard it is extremely
> slow.
>
mostly for specialist care and elective surgeries,
==========
Canada vs. US healthcare outcomes
Based on recent data, Canada's healthcare system shows better outcomes
for both life expectancy and infant mortality compared to the United
States. Canada's system focuses on universal access and preventive care,
while the U.S. system offers faster access to specialists and advanced
treatments but faces issues with cost and coverage equity.
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