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   Message 95,019 of 95,350   
   Webbster to Attila   
   Re: tRump socialist   
   08 Nov 25 05:27:47   
   
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   From: bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com   
      
   Attila  wrote in   
   news:nkksgk1kmhnjesia8svs3bl0cqmjqp6oh6@4ax.com:   
      
   > On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 18:33:05 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > <10ele11$21812$6@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >   
   >>Attila  wrote in   
   >>news:vfqrgkpomfo1o6pr54vk27vueedr24gf4v@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 22:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>> <10ej8ab$1f466$3@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Attila  wrote in   
   >>>>news:128qgklcc20jd2ju1l6hru4ft8guqg78s7@4ax.com:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 19:20:23 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>> <10eisdn$1bcl3$2@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>Attila  wrote in   
   >>>>>>news:g56pgkl5vphoda11ksneo9uie6klrasojt@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!   
   >>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   >>>>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>>>>>> <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>     Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>     He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>     He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the projects.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>     In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay him the   
   >>>>>>>>>>     government 20   
   >>>>>>>>>> percent of any “cash distributions.”   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>     Between now and the end of January 2029, the government   
   >>>>>>>>>>     can compel   
   >>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the   
   >>>>government   
   >>>>>>>>>> will be awarded 20 percent ownership of the company, likely   
   >>making   
   >>>>>>>>>> it the single largest shareholder.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA   
   >>Socialism   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of NY.   
   >>>>>>>>> As long as the city survives the experience.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and increasing   
   >>>>>>>>the socialist nature is like a pH measure not an inducement to   
   >>>>>>>>100% socialism. Libraries are socialist structures how are they   
   >>>>>>>>bad?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free   
   >>>>>>> stuff socialism promises?  Will you work for nothing to help   
   >>>>>>> produce any of it?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the   
   >>>>>>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out   
   >>>>>>> of the tax jurisdiction.  Frequently taking their business   
   >>>>>>> with them.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>By definition, employee owned companies (like Costco) are   
   >>>>>>socialism.   
   >>>>But   
   >>>>>>that's not what conservaturds call "socialism".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Costco is not owned by it's employees:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>You're right.  Try these instead:   
   >>>>==========   
   >>>>America’s largest majority employee-owned companies employ   
   >>>>collectively over 630,000 workers at some of America’s leading   
   >>>>companies. These include two of the 20 largest supermarket chains   
   >>>>(Publix, 4; Winco,   
   >>16),   
   >>>>eight of the 25 largest engineering and design firms (HDR, 6; Burns   
   >>>>& McDonell, 9; Parsons, 10; Black and & Veatch, 11; Gensler, 15;   
   >>>>HNTB,   
   >>19;   
   >>>>and CDM Smith, 23; and Terracon, 24), the third largest lawn and   
   >>>>landscape company (Davey Tree), two of the 15 largest construction   
   >>>>companies (PCL, 8; Hensel-Phelps, 12), two of the largest electrical   
   >>>>distributors (Graybar, 3; Border States, 10), the largest decorative   
   >>>>plywood and veneer manufacturer (Columbia Forest Products), the 20th   
   >>>>largest wealth management company (Baird), and the three largest US   
   >>>>AID contractors (Chemonics, DAI, and Abt Associates).   
   >>>   
   >>> They all have competition.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>So?   
   >   
   > Under Socialism there is no competition.   
   >   
   ==============   
   competition exists in socialism, though it's a different kind than in   
   capitalism, and is not a universally accepted tenet of all socialist   
   thought. Some socialist models, like market socialism, incorporate   
   competition for efficiency, while others, particularly state-controlled   
   systems, have historically used "socialist competition" or emulation   
   between state enterprises and individuals to encourage higher production.   
      
      
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