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From: bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
Attila wrote in
news:tb6ugkp2p3bbdik7it37h2ojtk3d8bu3ro@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 05:26:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <10emkaa$2c2e1$5@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>Attila wrote in
>>news:5gksgktl7bg57jpjrtcq4n9c1msahqmd5d@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 18:25:22 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <10eldih$21812$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Attila wrote in
>>>>news:q4qrgk53h13eftt435dpb16niovm2jnud0@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Attila wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-
id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the
>>projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay him
>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any “cash distributions.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government can compel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government will be awarded 20 percent ownership of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company, likely making it the single largest shareholder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of
NY.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As long as the city survives the experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and
increasing
>>>>>>>>>>>> the socialist nature is like a pH measure not an inducement
to
>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist structures how are
>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>> bad?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff socialism promises? Will you work for nothing to help
>>>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the
>>>>>>>>>>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out
>>>>>>>>>>> of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking their business
>>>>>>>>>>> with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax on
>>>>>>>>>> everybody and everybody consumes free resources. There is not
>>>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
>>socialism
>>>>>>>>>> and you are getting up in the air about services that should
be
>>>>>>>>>> available to everyone becoming available.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to his
>>>>>>>>> ability, to each according to his need" Which sounds good
>>>>>>>>> if you are talking about a computer run economy. Mix in
>>>>>>>>> people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges. "Some pigs
>>>>>>>>> are more equal than others."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
everyone?
>>>>>>>>>> Do you consider some people to be dogs and beneath the system?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
>>>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks and
>>>>>>>>> the pure food and drug laws are followed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's merit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's merit?
>>>>>>> And what does that have to do with the subject?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Quit being obtuse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take
>>>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else to
>>>>> give him what he needs or thinks he needs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How'd that work out in the Victorian and Gilded Age? That's great if
>>>>you're wealthy, not so great for every one else.
>>>
>>> Someone must have survived. There are a lot of people
>>> around today.
>>>
>>
>>But a lot didn't survive.
>
> Sooner or later nobody survives.
>
Would YOU rather be the Sooner or the Later? And would you rather pass in
misery or comfort?
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