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From: bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
Attila wrote in
news:896ugk5gbs4qj6us0qvat83galoofcpj7u@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 05:25:57 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <10emk95$2c2e1$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>Attila wrote in
>>news:obksgkhkqcfdr09k5c3enddh3un0nulur4@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 09:54:21 -0600, The World of Is!
>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Attila wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 07:57:31 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message-id <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him the government 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any “cash distributions.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government can compel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government will be awarded 20 percent ownership of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company, likely making it the single largest
shareholder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NY. As long as the city survives the experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasing the socialist nature is like a pH measure not
an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inducement to 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structures how are they bad?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff socialism promises? Will you work for nothing to
help
>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking their business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax on
>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody and everybody consumes free resources. There is
not
>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
>>>>>>>>>>>> socialism and you are getting up in the air about services
>>>>>>>>>>>> that should be available to everyone becoming available.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to his
>>>>>>>>>>> ability, to each according to his need" Which sounds good
>>>>>>>>>>> if you are talking about a computer run economy. Mix in
>>>>>>>>>>> people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges. "Some pigs
>>>>>>>>>>> are more equal than others."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone? Do you consider some people to be dogs and beneath
>>>>>>>>>>>> the system?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
>>>>>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks and
>>>>>>>>>>> the pure food and drug laws are followed?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's
>>>>>>>>>> merit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's merit?
>>>>>>>>> And what does that have to do with the subject?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quit being obtuse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take
>>>>>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else to
>>>>>>> give him what he needs or thinks he needs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> People fall. They can get back up again in other countries. Here
>>>>>> they just die.
>>>>>
>>>>> They can get up here too.
>>>>>
>>>>It's a matter of chance if they get sick. People go bankrupt from
>>>>medical costs all the time in America. We're unique like that.
>>>
>>> Doubtful. Not all countries have socialized medicine.
>>>
>>
>>The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does
>>not provide universal health care to its citizens.
>
> I am not going to argue the point. I consider the subject a
> personal responsibility.
>
Then don't ever claim that the US is a "Chistian Nation".
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