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Attila wrote in
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> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 08:57:42 -0600, Elendil
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> wrote:
>
>>Attila wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 18:07:48 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <10eo0tj$2obgp$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>> news:896ugk5gbs4qj6us0qvat83galoofcpj7u@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 05:25:57 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <10emk95$2c2e1$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>> news:obksgkhkqcfdr09k5c3enddh3un0nulur4@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 09:54:21 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 07:57:31 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message-id <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pay him the government 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any “cash distributions.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government can compel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point the government will be awarded 20 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership of the company, likely making it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single largest
>>>> shareholder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AKA Socialism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mayor of NY. As long as the city survives the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasing the socialist nature is like a pH measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inducement to 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structures how are they bad?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free stuff socialism promises? Will you work for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to
>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their business with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on everybody and everybody consumes free resources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socialism and you are getting up in the air about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services that should be available to everyone becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his ability, to each according to his need" Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds good if you are talking about a computer run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy. Mix in people and the Orwell effect quickly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerges. "Some pigs are more equal than others."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone? Do you consider some people to be dogs and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneath the system?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the pure food and drug laws are followed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> merit? And what does that have to do with the subject?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quit being obtuse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take
>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else to
>>>>>>>>>>> give him what he needs or thinks he needs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> People fall. They can get back up again in other countries.
>>>>>>>>>> Here they just die.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They can get up here too.
>>>>>>>>>
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