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In article <10eo101$2obgp$5@dont-email.me>, bax02
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>
> Attila wrote in
> news:tb6ugkp2p3bbdik7it37h2ojtk3d8bu3ro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 05:26:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> > in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <10emkaa$2c2e1$5@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >
> >>Attila wrote in
> >>news:5gksgktl7bg57jpjrtcq4n9c1msahqmd5d@4ax.com:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 18:25:22 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>> <10eldih$21812$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Attila wrote in
> >>>>news:q4qrgk53h13eftt435dpb16niovm2jnud0@4ax.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-
> id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the
> >>projects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay him
> >>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government 20
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any ?cash distributions.?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government can compel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government will be awarded 20 percent ownership of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> company, likely making it the single largest shareholder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of
> NY.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As long as the city survives the experience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and
> increasing
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the socialist nature is like a pH measure not an inducement
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist structures how are
> >>they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bad?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free
> >>>>>>>>>>> stuff socialism promises? Will you work for nothing to help
> >>>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the
> >>>>>>>>>>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out
> >>>>>>>>>>> of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking their business
> >>>>>>>>>>> with them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax on
> >>>>>>>>>> everybody and everybody consumes free resources. There is not
> >>>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
> >>socialism
> >>>>>>>>>> and you are getting up in the air about services that should
> be
> >>>>>>>>>> available to everyone becoming available.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to his
> >>>>>>>>> ability, to each according to his need" Which sounds good
> >>>>>>>>> if you are talking about a computer run economy. Mix in
> >>>>>>>>> people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges. "Some pigs
> >>>>>>>>> are more equal than others."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
> everyone?
> >>>>>>>>>> Do you consider some people to be dogs and beneath the system?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
> >>>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks and
> >>>>>>>>> the pure food and drug laws are followed?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's merit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's merit?
> >>>>>>> And what does that have to do with the subject?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Quit being obtuse.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take
> >>>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else to
> >>>>> give him what he needs or thinks he needs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>How'd that work out in the Victorian and Gilded Age? That's great if
> >>>>you're wealthy, not so great for every one else.
> >>>
> >>> Someone must have survived. There are a lot of people
> >>> around today.
> >>>
> >>
> >>But a lot didn't survive.
> >
> > Sooner or later nobody survives.
> >
>
> Would YOU rather be the Sooner or the Later? And would you rather pass in
> misery or comfort?
Who cares? You're gonna be dead anyway.
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